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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: Lesanne on Saturday 20 August 05 08:16 BST (UK)
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How do you find out a date for a death in order to get a death cert?
Robert Norris was in Hammersmith in 1901 census with wife Katharine and children.
He was born in Holborn sometimes Kilburn 1869/70....?
:-\ Lesanne. :-\
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Hi Lesanne
If the person was still alive in 1901 then I think the only place for looking for the death is 1837online, though unless you have some idea of when he died it's going to cost you an awful lot of money :(
happy hunting
Bee
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Luckily for most people, events in the C20th are still covered by living memory, even if it is somewhat hazy, so usually descendants can say roughly when someone has died, or might have died, because they know they were no longer around when they were born etc. So its helpful if you are in contact with any descendants of this line. Or is Robert likely to be in directories. I have tracked peoples' entries in directories to see when they disappeared, (of course they could have moved) or with men at this time through electoral rolls is also a possibility.
Regards
Valda
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Hi Bee and Valda, :D
My thanks for your replies. I'm afraid I have no idea when or where he died.
The list of birth places for his children, I thought, might help but nothing.
Even bmd and 1837 need approx age. I signed with Ancestry, to find this info.
But, hey, sun's shining 8) and I get tomorrow off. :D
Lesanne.
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Hi Lesanne,
A complete shot in the dark but these are the only Robert Norris on the NBI after 1901 and I wondered if there might be any clues for you:
15 Jun 1907 Marmaduke Robert W NORRIS 35 Yorks N/R Sowerby [nr Thirsk], St Oswald
19 Aug 1904 Robert George NORRIS 58 Somerset Chilthorne Domer, Blessed Virgin Mary
15 Jan 1901 Robert George Irvine NORRIS 4 Berks Sunningdale, Holy Trinity
2 Jul 1901 Robert Hilary NORRIS 3d Berks Sunningdale, Holy Trinity
Good luck and enjoy your day off.
Jill
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:D Jill, Thanks so much for spending time looking up Robert.
He was born 1869/70, Kilburn/Holborn Middx.
Making him 31/32 yrs old in 1901.
CWGC has nothing either. :-
I have left posts for him most places I can think of, even on Mack's WW1 site.
Thanks again. Lesanne. :)
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Is there any way you can get access to a street directory for the area he was living in 1901, eg Gores Directory or something similar. They were usually printed annually. Through these you can check addresses and occupations, and you should be able to see when he disappears from the listings. It could take you a while to find the year of death, but I've found quite a lot of info using this method.
There are some Gores Listings on a website but I'm not sure which years and which areas they cover.
Try searching through Google for Gores
Good luck!
Viv
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:D Ok, thanks ViV, I'll have a look.. Lesanne.
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Couldn't get anything after 1901 in Gores, put in "Old Directories" and spent
a jolly 2 hours having a browse. Found enough shop keepers and prof's.
Did find a Robert in 1908, just, is he mine...?
And,... some florist's, Norris Brother's. I wonder.. ::) ::)
Lesanne.
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You may get some idea from any marrige certificates. I narrowed a couple of mine by the father's name being (deceased) on the certificate.
Jean
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Here are a couple of death records entries from scotlandspeople based on birth of 1869 + or - 1:
1926 NORRIS ROBERT M 56 EASTWOOD GLASGOW CITY LANARK 562/00 0048
1948 NORRIS ROBERT M 78 BARRHEAD AND LEVERN RENFREW 572/02 0016
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:D Thanks for trying to find Robert,
his mothers maiden name was Mary Wall.
:) Lesanne.
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Hi!
Many larger libraries have microfiche copies of the death index after 1901
and I've found it a pretty good way (and cost-efficient!) to track down
details of deaths by checking if the age fits and if the area in which the
death was registered seems likely.
As the index is alphabetical you would also be able to look for Katherine's
death at the same time.
As Robert was only 32 in 1901 you may have to check the records for
several quarters, but I've found it just as quick as trying to search for
records on 1837online and you can look for other things while you're there!
Good luck with your search.
Ju
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Thanks for that Ju,
I shall get to my local, and have a look. Perhaps they can point
me in the right direction.
Lesanne.
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Is there a local LDS centre close by, just in case the library doesn't have what you want.
Viv
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Hi Viv,
My closest library is Steyning, West Sussex. It's a large village really.
Next place would be Worthing, then Brighton.
Any LDS there do you know? Lesanne.
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Not sure,
If you have a look on the family search website it might give you a list of the centres.
Good luck!
Viv
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How does Goring Street, Worthing sound?
Viv
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Or if not Worthing choose for yourself from the list
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/library_fhc_find.asp
Regards
Valda
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I can find that addy. Sometimes I'm on deliveries in Worthing, might have a wrecky then. Thanks for that. :D Lesanne.
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Typical, just printed of multimap, it couldn't be further away.
I shall have to make a lot of deliveries to cover that time....!
;D Lesanne
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Do LDS centres have the civil registration indices or just LDS records?
It's just that to find Robert Norris' death I think you need to look at the index
of deaths from 1901 onwards, so it might be worth checking what records
are available before you go.
Ju
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I could probably fone now I know where they r. Thanks for the advice on that. Once I have been over there, I might be able to get info for other folks.
:D Lesanne.
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There's also a LDS Church in Crawley. They also have a research library although I think it's only their LDS records. Been there in the days before computers. Found them to be very helpful. They had all the microfiche or could get one's required if not on site. Might be a good idea to ring first.
Jean
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If you are in Sussex, and have a day off, it might be cheaper to get a day return to London and go to the FRC in person and look through the death indexes. Whilst there you can also look for any other 'missing' people on your tree in the BMD indexes plus all censuses, all for the same cost.
Sometimes this is cheaper, and a lot more fun, than buying more and more credits on internet sites.
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:D Hey Everybody, Thanks so much for all your replies.
You see, I don't get to have a day off as such. I'm in the flower trade
and have to be at market by 4am to get all the orders finished, home
about 6-8pm. Thank goodness for Rootschat. 8)
As most of the record offices are only open in normal office hours, there is
very little chance of me ever getting there. I know exactly how our friends
in other countries feel. But I am ever hopeful as they are.
My last afternoon ( summer 04) away from work, I spent with my
daughter, My goodness was this 3 years ago!!! ;D
And I enjoy every day with the flowers and the customers. :D
:D Lesanne. :D
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Just having an update on old posts.
I have now found a couple of son's for Robert Norris.
Born in Maidenhead/Cookham.
Henry Thomas 1904
Leonard A 1913 (possible)
Happy New Year to everyone... Lesanne.