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Title: 1939 Register
Post by: cein on Monday 09 December 19 19:36 GMT (UK)
Hello,
After the 100 year requirement is finished for locked persons how long does it take for them to be unlocked.  My Mom was born November 19, 1919.  I don't have access to genealogical sites but in browsing them she seems to still be blocked.
Thank you for any help on this,
Cein
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: groom on Monday 09 December 19 19:40 GMT (UK)
Hello,
After the 100 year requirement is finished for locked persons how long does it take for them to be unlocked.  My Mom was born November 19, 1919.  I don't have access to genealogical sites but in browsing them she seems to still be blocked.
Thank you for any help on this,
Cein

The official time is 100 years and a day I believe. However the record will only be opened and shown online when the records are updated. Find My Past does this quite frequently but I think Ancestry only does it once a year.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: cein on Monday 09 December 19 20:52 GMT (UK)
Thank you groom.  I'm so anxious to find out what my Mom's occupation was in 1939 as it may explain some of the skills she had in later life.  She never talked about her early life and of course I never asked which is something I deeply regret now that she is gone. 
Cein
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: groom on Monday 09 December 19 22:06 GMT (UK)
When did your mother die? If it was some time ago her record may already be opened.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: Craclyn on Monday 09 December 19 22:07 GMT (UK)
Since her birth would have been registered in Q4 1919 it may be worth looking on Findmypast in Q1 2020 to see if the records have been opened.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: chempat on Monday 09 December 19 22:35 GMT (UK)
Possibly the lady died in Canada (in 2000?), so a death certificate/proof would have been needed to open it before 100 years?
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: cein on Monday 09 December 19 22:40 GMT (UK)
groom, she died in January 2000.  I didn't apply to have her record opened as it was quite expensive.  Since it was only 81 years since her birth I didn't expect it to be opened.  I've just been waiting anxiously for this 100th year to come.
Cein

Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: cein on Monday 09 December 19 22:43 GMT (UK)
Craclyn, I will keep my eye open for2020 and hope for the best.
Thank you,
Cein
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: cein on Monday 09 December 19 22:45 GMT (UK)
Chempat, you are correct.  She has been gone quite a while but as I mentioned to groom it was expensive to have the record opened.  I'm sure that will happen within this next year some time.
Cein
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: chempat on Monday 09 December 19 22:51 GMT (UK)
Did not realise it was that much:

'Non-Findmypast.co.uk subscribers should use The National Archives Freedom of Information (FOI) request form to request a search of closed records from the 1939 Register. If the record can be opened, we will send you a full transcription of the information held in the record. The opened record will be available to view on Findmypast.co.uk ten working days after the notification of a successful request. Please note there is a fixed charge of £24.35 for this service.'

I think that scotlandspeople charges a similar amount for anyone on their 1939 register, and you only get to see the person you specify, not the surrounding household, so perhaps it is not too bad if you were desperate, but another few months now should not matter.

Added: £15 for scotlandspeople per entry.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 09 December 19 22:51 GMT (UK)
I got both my mum and dad's 1939 records opened,didn't cost me a penny.

I just had to email Find My Past a copy of their death certs.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: chempat on Monday 09 December 19 22:54 GMT (UK)
Yepp, you have already paid to belong to F M P

'Findmypast.co.uk subscribers can request a check of the closed records free of charge and if successful, the record will be made available via the online service. Please note in order to access this service you will be required to provide proof of death, mostly commonly by providing a death certificate.'
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: Malcolm33 on Monday 09 December 19 23:06 GMT (UK)
    Have often wondered how the unblocking worked, so very interesting.    I have only just learned this morning that one of our friends in our street during the War years, died back in September 1998 - from his younger brother.  The family migrated to Melbourne in 1949 so that will be why he is still blocked.

    On the other hand, I was in touch up until December 2010, with another friend of that era who lived next door but one from Peter who died in 1998, and his name appears in the 1939 registration.  So I guess that means that Alan has gone too!   Alan did tell me that he was still living in the same house after all of those years.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: groom on Monday 09 December 19 23:09 GMT (UK)
The records of people under 100 are also routinely opened if FindMyPast can find deaths. Both my father, who was born 1923 and died 1999, and my mother, who was born 1920 and died 2008, have been visible on there for some years and I haven't informed them. I think they must check death registers. Obviously it is harder with a woman as there may have been several name changes. Also if people have emigrated and then died, they are probably still closed.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: brigidmac on Tuesday 10 December 19 00:14 GMT (UK)
I found my mother's cousin on 1939 register and where they'd crossed out maiden name and put married name .....and she is still alive !
I wondered if it was to do with her having left country or just a mistake .
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: Malcolm33 on Tuesday 10 December 19 18:40 GMT (UK)
  Why would they have not named a single resident at an address in the 1939 register?

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Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 10 December 19 19:39 GMT (UK)
Nobody in residence that week?
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: Malcolm33 on Tuesday 10 December 19 21:18 GMT (UK)
Nobody in residence that week?
  Thought of that so looked for family elsewhere - no luck.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: Mean_genie on Tuesday 10 December 19 21:28 GMT (UK)
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Why would they have not named a single resident at an address in the 1939 register?

  I know the house was occupied, well at least I have been told that the 'Jones' family were living there at that time - "I lived at 47 Durley Ave Pinner in 1937(aged 2)".

    I was just across the road at No.74 from November 1937 when the houses in our Avenue were first built.

     Then why the Tick to the left of the address?

The tick is probably a 'V' which denotes a vacant property. It doesn't necessarily mean unoccupied, it could just mean that the occupants were away from home at the time of the enumeration, in which case they should be enumerated wherever they happened to be on the night of 29 September 1939.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: groom on Tuesday 10 December 19 21:31 GMT (UK)
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"I lived at 47 Durley Ave Pinner in 1937(aged 2)".

That means the child would have been 4 in 1939 so perhaps evacuated with their mother.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: chempat on Wednesday 11 December 19 07:53 GMT (UK)
  Thought of that so looked for family elsewhere - no luck.

Just because you could not find them does not mean they were not elsewhere - some of them were still alive and would not show, and Jones is a very common surname - or is Jones being used by you as an alias to maintain privacy?