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Title: Bridget & James Noon(e) b: abt 1849 Ireland, lived Parr St Helens
Post by: sng165 on Friday 29 November 19 16:19 GMT (UK)
Trying to trace James Noon(e) & Wife Bridget (no maiden name) & their birth / ancestors / parents.

James & Bridget born abt 1849 had 3 boys that I’ve traced: Martin 1871, Patrick 1877 & James 1878 (all St Helens area).
Martin married Margaret Johnson. Patrick Noone married Martha Ellen Clegg (no wife for James).

It's this Patrick Noone, the 2nd husband of Martha Ellen Clegg (1887-1934) - (her 1st husband, John Addison died in WW1), who is the direct link to the family tree

I've traced his parents James & Bridget on 1871 census, lodging in Widnes;
in 1881 they are in Parr, St Helens with all 3 boys;
in 1901 they are living with Martin & his wife Margaret (& her dad);
in 1911 Martin & Margaret had Patrick lodging with their family - no sign of James & Bridget after 1901??

I have no surname for Bridget.
No Marriage place/details.
No parents for either James nor Bridget.
I don’t know where in Ireland they came from to start a trace there.


Any help would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Bridget & James Noon(e) b: abt 1849 Ireland, lived Parr St Helens
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 29 November 19 16:57 GMT (UK)
I am wondering if these are connected.  The mothers maiden surnames are similar if spoken.  Accents were probably strong

March qtr 1871   
McDonough  Bridget       
Noone    James       
Prescot    8b   764

NOON, MARTIN       mmn MCDONALD 
1872  March Quarter in PRESCOT  Volume 08B  Page 646

NOONE, JAMES       MCDONNELL 
1878  March Quarter in PRESCOT  Volume 08B  Page 682

another possibility

NOON, PATRICK       mmn MCDERMOTT 
1874  Dec Quarter in PRESCOT  Volume 08B  Page 703
 
Title: Re: Bridget & James Noon(e) b: abt 1849 Ireland, lived Parr St Helens
Post by: sng165 on Friday 29 November 19 17:06 GMT (UK)
That sounds feasible - great, thanks so much :)
Title: Re: Bridget & James Noon(e) b: abt 1849 Ireland, lived Parr St Helens
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 29 November 19 17:14 GMT (UK)
Death Sep qtr 1907 
NOONE    James    age 56   
Prescot RD    8b   381

Death Mar qtr 1908   
NOONE    Bridget    age 60   
Prescot RD    8b   579

Ages at death were dependent on the knowledge of the informant
Title: Re: Bridget & James Noon(e) b: abt 1849 Ireland, lived Parr St Helens
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 29 November 19 17:24 GMT (UK)
Birth
NOON, JOHN       mmn MCDONNELL 
1873  Sept Quarter in PRESCOT  Volume 08B  Page 631

Possible death
NOON, JOHN       age 0 
1873  Dec Quarter in PRESCOT  Volume 08B  Page 443
 
Title: Re: Bridget & James Noon(e) b: abt 1849 Ireland, lived Parr St Helens
Post by: garstonite on Saturday 30 November 19 05:37 GMT (UK)
www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
Surname   Forename(s)   Surname   Forename(s)    Church / Register Office   Registers At   Reference
NOONE   James   MCDONOUGH   Bridget   Prescot Register Office or Registrar Attended   Prescot   R/20/148
.....................................................................
Spot on Rosie with the 3 children
1881 census in
Flagyard
Parr
St Helens
......................................................................
 Household
James Noone
Head
Male
32
Ireland
Bridget Noone
Wife
Female
34
Ireland
Martin Noone
Son
Male
9
St Helens, Lancashire, England
Patrick Noone
Son
Male
4
St Helens, Lancashire, England
James Noone
Son
Male
3
St Helens, Lancashire, England
..................................................
possible for Martin ?

death mar qtr 1945 aged 74 in Blackburn - born 1871 -
Title: Re: Bridget & James Noon(e) b: abt 1849 Ireland, lived Parr St Helens
Post by: sng165 on Saturday 30 November 19 13:19 GMT (UK)
That's Brilliant - thank you.
It's led me to wonder about the 1861 census showing a Bridget Mc Donnell & Mother Mary & a Sister Mary in Liverpool, St Martin (is this Prescot ??) - could this be her mother?
Title: Re: Bridget & James Noon(e) b: abt 1849 Ireland, lived Parr St Helens
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 30 November 19 13:39 GMT (UK)
Prescot reg district covers these places
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/prescot.html

Your best route now would be the marriage certificate for Bridget.