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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: hurworth on Wednesday 27 November 19 04:40 GMT (UK)
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During the day I've noticed some inaccurate busybody has been editing my ancestors, and not always correctly. They've just added my living parents and marked them as 'deceased'.
I've gone to edit this and it doesn't happen immediately - FamilySearch has to review it!
I'm not happy at all.
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Just out of interest what is 'ropable'?
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It means angry, furious, in a bad mood. Perhaps it is more of an Oz and NZ saying.
Cheers
KHP
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My sympathies- a very unpleasant thing to have happen. You can also contact the person directly and ask them to make the changes immediately - there should be a clickable version of their username showing.
It may ‘just’ be carelessness and not being very ..ahem ... active ...in the upstairs department - perhaps they accidentally haven’t ticked the living box. In this case they may be very happy to quickly make the change.
However I do appreciate there are some arrogant and inconsiderate people in the world who may not respect your wishes and it is not reasonable to have to wait while Your request slowly winds its way through the familysearch.org system. If you have an evening in front of the TV planned, you could combine it with pushing your way through the familysearch.org chatbots until you get a real person. Most queries get automated replies but if you keep replying and asking to speak to a real person, hopefully you will find that person very responsive. I have only done this once - and for an unrelated issue- but when I finally got through to an actual person they acted very promptly. It did take several hours of turning around automated replies.
I never include living people at all, so the information about them cannot be revealed by accident or otherwise - you might want to recommend this approach to the individual messing around with your tree. My personal approach is to not even include the quite recently deceased, because I would never want to upset anyone.
Good luck.
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It means angry, furious, in a bad mood. Perhaps it is more of an Oz and NZ saying.
Cheers
KHP
Yes, agree, I am born and bred New South Wales, rural districts. My immediate family use the spelling 'ropeable' and they explained it to me as 'becoming so angry they need to be held back as though anchored down by ropes' I asked about what makes it different from being 'irrate' or 'furious' ... well :
:) someone inadvertently spills a jug of milk ... its the last drop until the milk gets delivered tomorrow ... you are 'irrate' because there's no milk for your visitors who will arrive later today.
:) someone knows there are visitors due later today, but still pours himself/herself a full glass of milk, using it all. You are furious at their lack of consideration.
:) someone, when asked 'who finished the milk' stands up and postures and says 'what's it to you ... you're not the boss of the ....fridge and grabs the fridge door, swings it wide open, and slams it shut so things in fridge are heard to fall, shatter etc.... well ... that is when both the questioner and the milk drinker are ropeable and both need to remember to act with restraint or be ' whalloped to kingdomcome and back'
JM
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It is for reasons like this that I don't put any of my research findings onto such sites, where accuracy comes a distant second.
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It is for reasons like this that I don't put any of my research findings onto such sites, where accuracy comes a distant second.
I don't add anyone born less than 100 years ago, regardless of whether they are alive or deceased. Mostly I fix up inaccuracies in the FamilySearch collaborative tree when I find errors, because sometimes it is a downright mess with several families merged together.
Likewise when I am taking photographs of headstones and uploading them to Findagrave I tend to only photograph headstones from about the 1950s and earlier.
I just don't understand why this stranger has taken such an interest in my family, and has ticked the "Deceased" box when clearly they have no records to support this and no personal knowledge of our family. I find this creepy and upsetting. When you mark someone born less than 100 years ago as Deceased FamilySearch makes you fill out a couple more boxes with a reason why you KNOW this to be true, so I think they've also been untruthful.
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I have recently seen on My Heritage the names of two of the children of a family friend (born 1950's) both stated as deceased, only one of them has died. These records came up on a Google search when I was trying to locate their address.
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I got through to Chat.
Have to change myself ...blah blah. I explain that the system won't let me.
Then ...have to submit form...blah blah.
and then to cap it all off they 'don't understand' why I'm distressed about it!
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And now this doozey!
We are working these issue s quickly as we can. We are very busy. Possibly FamilySearch is not the site you need for you research. We are mostly missionaries who volunteer our time and do the best we can.
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I'm afraid that is one reason I'd never put a tree on Family Search as anyone can change it. Even if you correct it there is no guarantee that the person won't change it back again.
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I'm afraid that is one reason I'd never put a tree on Family Search as anyone can change it. Even if you correct it there is no guarantee that the person won't change it back again.
I don't 'put a tree' on FamilySearch. I just fix errors when I find them. I have an issue with some busybody deciding that my grandparents and parents should be on there. Until yesterday they weren't and I was happy to leave it like that even though my grandparents are deceased.
Even if you never put a tree of your ancestors on there someone else probably will.
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Even if you never put a tree of your ancestors on there someone else probably will.
Yes, and they will try to put a square peg into a round hole, because it fits their needs, the ancestor they have up is wrong, shares the same name, date of birth, but if they looked closer at the death certificate, they will see it is a different set of parents. I have seen two like this on Family Search.
Cheers
KHP
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It's funny really because genealogical websites can only exist in the EU because data protection law doesn't apply to the dead.
When they hold inaccurate details on the living they're putting themselves at risk of some hefty fines if someone puts in a complaint against them - frankly I'm surprised they don't automatically screen out anything born or died within the last century.
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STILL waiting. The thing is bashlad is that they haven't added birthdates for my parents, so FamilySearch wouldn't know whether they're born within the last century or not.
I like the idea of a 100 year rule.
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Most of the sites handle this aspect of data protection by replacing first names with “Living” and hiding detailed facts in public views which is an acceptable approach. The problem occurs when irresponsible users either accidentally or deliberately provide data which allows a living individual to be calculated as deceased. The full details will then show.
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Still waiting for this to be reviewed.
I know it's Thanksgiving, but I don't understand why this is such a cumbersome process and why they don't deal with it more quickly.