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Title: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: hensher on Friday 22 November 19 15:18 GMT (UK)
My great grandfather William Edmond Hensher from London was in South Africa by the early 1880s, but in a letter from him to his son he mentions 'when I went to New Zealand'. Can find no other mention of NZ anywhere. He was born in 1853 and not from a wealthy family so presume he went to NZ in the 1870s. He eventually became a gold miner in Africa. Where is best to start searching please?
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 22 November 19 15:28 GMT (UK)
Have you found his passage to South Africa? 

His original destination when he left London would be the place to start as he could have gone from place to place. 

Do you know if he travelled on his own or did he have a wife/children in London?
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 22 November 19 15:37 GMT (UK)
Is this him in 1901

William E Hensher 44 gold prospector agent
Daisy 26
Thomas 7
Ella 1
Gladys 2 months
Elizabeth Collis 17 servant

Death in 1903
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 22 November 19 16:05 GMT (UK)
Thomas William - 1893 - mmn = Beckett - baptised 5 April 1896 - Kettering - born 17 April 1893 - Thomas Edmund (Gold Prospector) and Esther Emily.

Richard Edmund - 1896 - mmn = Beckett - baptised 5 April 1896 - Kettering - born 20 October 1895 - Thomas Edmund (Gold Prospector) and Esther Emily.

Cecil Jack - 1897 - mmn = Beckett - baptised 31 October 1897 - Kettering - born 14 July - Thomas Edmund (Gold Prospector) and Hester.

Ella - 1900 - mmn = Shead

Gladys - 1901 - mmn = Shead

I can't readily see a marriage between Hensher and Beckett or Shead.


Added:  BUT none of this helps in the search for a journey to New Zealand.  :-[

Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Maiden Stone on Friday 22 November 19 16:07 GMT (UK)
He might have worked his passage if he went as a young, single man.
Was there a mining industry in NZ? Was there a gold rush in Australia which attracted him before he continued to NZ?
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 22 November 19 16:55 GMT (UK)
So, Esther Emily died 11 September 1897 - Tooting.  Administration to Robert Hensher, attorney for WEH.

Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Janette on Friday 22 November 19 19:36 GMT (UK)
Hi,
do you have any more dates as to when he got to South Africa and where and when did he die please?

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Fresh Fields on Friday 22 November 19 19:44 GMT (UK)
Hello.

I'm wondering how many W. HENSHER there were. On a very quick look at our archives listings and PapersPast I got only one hit pre 1885.

Otago 1865 for a design of clay pipe on sale.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT18651215.2.4.2?end_date=31-12-1885&query=Hensher&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1839

Alan.
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: hensher on Friday 22 November 19 21:09 GMT (UK)
Wow this forum is a treasure trove for me! William Edmond Hensher must have been in South Africa before 1884 as that was when he married Esther Emily Beckett from Port Elizabeth. Her family arrived there in 1862. He died in April 1903 allegedly of Blackwater fever in the Gold Coast, now Sierra Leone. I've not been able to find any details of his burial.
There were several William Henshers, a family name. The Henshers had quite a dynasty of tobacco pipe makers. William Edmond's father Robert was one and the William in the newspaper advertisement was I think William Edmond's uncle, born 1806. I didn't know he was an exporter so thank you very much for that info!
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 22 November 19 21:39 GMT (UK)
Probate entry on ancestry says

William Edmond of 311 Hoe Street Walthamstow Essex died 20 April 1903 at Assinie near Grand Bassam French West Africa
Probate London 20 May to Daisy Gertrude widow Effects £289

Same address as the 1901 census
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Fresh Fields on Saturday 23 November 19 00:32 GMT (UK)
Hi again.

Just out of curiosity I went back to our PapersPast and researched the word Hensher with no time limitation, and scored only one other hit with reference to a 1927 fire, which I presume you know about.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19271008.2.195?query=Hensher&snippet=true

Alan.

Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Janette on Saturday 23 November 19 00:33 GMT (UK)
This looks like him

Hensher   W E   —   —   1895   Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960   Beira, Mozambique   

Hensher   W E   —   —   1897   Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960   Cape, South Africa   

Hensher   W E   —   —   1901   Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960   Grand-Bassam, Ivory Coast   

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Fresh Fields on Saturday 23 November 19 00:47 GMT (UK)
He might have worked his passage if he went as a young, single man.
Was there a mining industry in NZ? Was there a gold rush in Australia which attracted him before he continued to NZ?

This link will help time-lining gold winning in New Zealand.

Does the letter mentioning New Zealand have any clues as to it's date or era? The surname is not appearing in the places I usually do initial searches, when I'm researching the pioneers of interest to me.

Alan.
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: wivenhoe on Saturday 23 November 19 01:17 GMT (UK)

Is there a date on the letter to the son?

What is he saying in the letter about....when he went to New Zealand? 
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 23 November 19 01:27 GMT (UK)
Was there a gold rush in Australia which attracted him before he continued to NZ?

1881, there was a Gold Field in VIC, and a company HENSHER and Co, 5th column, scroll down to ‘Our Raywood correspondent writes: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article88633110

Jamjar
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 23 November 19 01:36 GMT (UK)
Only 3 Hensher deaths in VIC. Any connection with this one?:

10109/1966 HENSHER Charles Henry father William born London England at Mentone aged 75

4691/1967 HENSHER Mabel father Albert James WARD mother Kathleen born Essex England death Cheltenham aged 75

Their grandson:

12258/1980 HENSHER Andrew Haydn father Donald Hensher mother Thora WILCOCKSON born Melbourne death Brighton East, aged 30

Just in case. For Charles: Death - type 9 into little white box - and funeral notice - 10 in little white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19660526&printsec=frontpage&hl=en https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19660527&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

For Mabel, funeral, 4 in little white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19670301&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

Andrew, death and funeral, 27 in little white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19800520&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

They arrived 8 Mar 1928 Melbourne on the Hobsons Bay

HENSHER Charles
Mabel
Donald

Charles Henry Hensher Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 27 May 1966
Mabel Hensher Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 1 March 1967
Andrew Hadyn Hensher Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 20 May 1980
Donald Charles Hensher Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 4 August 1993
Thora Myrtle Hensher Bunurong Memorial Park Cremated 7 January 1999

Charles Henry was born to William John HENSHER and Laura HALL, married Sep 1883 Mile End 1c 967

His birth:

HENSHER, CHARLES  HENRY mmn HALL 
GRO Reference: 1890  S Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN  Volume 01C  Page 441

Marriage:

March 1914 W.Ham 4a 365
HENSHER Charles
WARD Mabel

Son:

HENSHER, DONALD  CHARLES mmn WARD 
GRO Reference: 1915  D Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 438

Charles’ siblings were, 1884 William Joseph, 1886 Florence Sarah, 1893 Sidney, 1895 Ethel Harriet. I can’t find any on censuses until 1911 with only mother, Sidney and Ethel:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWFW-LPW

Jamjar



Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 23 November 19 01:52 GMT (UK)
From Mrs. Google.......

https://www.myheritage.com/names/william_hensher

William Edmond Hensher was born circa 1857, at birth place.
William married Daisy Hensher.
Daisy was born circa 1875, in Braintree, Essex, England.
They had 3 children: Thomas Hensher and 2 other children.
William married Esther Emily Hensher (born Beckett) on month day 1880, at age 23 at marriage place.
Esther was born in 1862, in South Africa.
They had 3 sons: Robert J Hensher and 2 other children.
William lived in 1861, at address.
He lived in 1901, at address.
William passed away of cause of death on month day 1903, at age 46 at death place.

Maybe join up/make contact?

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Janette on Saturday 23 November 19 03:58 GMT (UK)


This link will help time-lining gold winning in New Zealand.

Does the letter mentioning New Zealand have any clues as to it's date or era? The surname is not appearing in the places I usually do initial searches, when I'm researching the pioneers of interest to me.

Alan.

Did you forget the link Alan?

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: Fresh Fields on Saturday 23 November 19 08:00 GMT (UK)
Thanks Janette.

Family gave me a hurry up about possibly missing an eye check up appointment with my surgeon, so once again in haste, I did not successfully complete the link.

https://teara.govt.nz/en/gold-and-gold-mining

It was just for time lining purposes and I see the thread has now moved on with Australian info.

All the best.

Alan.
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: hensher on Tuesday 03 December 19 15:33 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your very useful information. I think I have all the info from English sources about William Edmond Hensher but am now trying to trace his perambulations around the world! What he says about New Zealand to his son, my grandfather in his final letter in April 1903 (he died a month later) is …..'but my boy, your first experience on your first voyage was not a patch on mine when I went to New Zealand as an imigrant (sic) - half starved and like pigs'.
Re the Hensher and Co mining company mentioned in Victoria 1881 - it could well have been William Edmond as he was trading later as Hensher and Chadwick, the company being wound up in London in 1902. Even though he had married in South Africa in 1880. His in-laws, the Beckett family had been in Campbells creek inform 1864.
Title: Re: Assisted passage from England 1870s?
Post by: hensher on Wednesday 04 December 19 14:48 GMT (UK)
Extra to above. He must have gone to New Zealand between 1871, when he was 18 and appeared in the UK census living with his mother and stepfather, and 1880 when he married in South Africa.