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		England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: goff153 on Friday 22 November 19 08:57 GMT (UK) 
		
			
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				Married in 1890 after having at least five children of which my grandmother was the youngest. They had described themselves as man and wife in censuses, children's birth certificates etc up to that time. Henry was born at Davenport, Cheshire but moved to Derby as a young man - Louisa was born in Quarndon, Derby. I am wondering whether either was already married which prevented their marriage previously. Does anyone have any information about either of them please?
			
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				What information as to Fathers etc is on the marriage certificate?
 
 Have you found them in all the censuses?
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				Marriage in Macclesfield - Civil Marriage or Registrar Attended - 1890, March quarter = Henry PEAK (no e) and Louisa Sadler - from CheshireBMD.
 
 
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				1891 census:
 
 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:46ZJ-NN2
 
 Looking at GRO for Clara and Albert - mmn = Sadler, but having a bit of difficulty with the other children (might be due to my incompetence  :-\ )
 
 
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				In 1871 he is Henry G
 
 There is an 1861 entry for Henry George Peakes b 1832 Astbury - he is single.  Perhaps they just never got around to marrying??
 
 RG9/2506/22/8
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				1881 census:
 
 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27K-GYWR
 
 1871 census:
 
 familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5RY-4MZ
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				Albert Peake   
 Baptism 27 Nov 1870 Sutton on the Hill, Derbyshire,
 Father:   Henry George Peake, occ bricklayer
 Mother:   Louisa , abode Ash
 
 Albert Peake 23, bricklayer, 34 Crosby Street
 Marriage    25 Dec 1893   St Luke, Derbyshire
 Father:   Henry George Peake, occ bricklayer
 Spouse:   Lillian Alice Bant
 one witness was Clara Peake
 
 Clara Peake 30, 34 Crosby Street
 Marriage 6 Apr 1896 St Luke, Derbyshire
 Father:   Henry Peake occ bricklayer
 Spouse:   Fred Oldfield
 
 Louisa Grace Sadler Peake age 8
 Baptism    23 Aug 1889 St Barnabas, Derbyshire
 Father:   Henry George Peake, occ. bricklayer
 Mother:   Louise, abode 34 Crosby St
 
 Louisa Grace Sadler Peake age 24, 40 Crosby Street
 Marriage 5 Dec 1905 St James, Derbyshire,
 Father:   Henry George Peake, dec’d bricklayer
 Spouse:   John Thomas Harrison
 
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				1891 census:
 
 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:46ZJ-NN2
 
 Looking at GRO for Clara and Albert - mmn = Sadler, but having a bit of difficulty with the other children (might be due to my incompetence  :-\ )
 
 
 Didn't find Fred's and Arthur's surname/mmn misspelt all confirm mother's maiden name SADLER
 
 Harry PEAKE mmn   SADLER
 1868  S Quarter in BELPER  Volume 07B  Page 426
 
 Rose PEAKE mmn    SADLER
 1872  D Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT  Volume 06B  Page 347
 
 Arthur PEATE mmn    LADLER
 1877  D Quarter in SHARDLOW  Volume 07B  Page 421
 
 Louisa Grace Sadler PEAKE mmn   SADLER
 1881  S Quarter in DERBY  Volume 07B  Page 488
 
 Fred Peake 26, bricklayer, 40 Crosby Street
 Marriage 7 Jul 1906 St Luke, Derbyshire
 Father:   Henry Peake, occ bricklayer dec'd
 Spouse:   Mary Eley
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				From the census Fred pob given as Castle Donington there's this baptism 
 father Henry's occupation is an Inn Keeper  :-\
 
 Fred Peake 21 Sept. 1879  Baptism Lockington
 Denomination   Anglican County   Leicestershire
 father Henry
 mother Louisa, abode Castle Donington
 PB at Castle Donnington
 
 This is the only Fred that I've come up with on GRO which might be a match but mmn HULL  ???
 
 Fred PEAK   1879  S Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 280
 
 Edit
 
 In 1871 he is Henry G
 
 There is an 1861 entry for Henry George Peakes b 1832 Astbury - he is single.  Perhaps they just never got around to marrying??
 
 RG9/2506/22/8
 
 
 This appears to Louisa SADLER b 1839 Quarndon, Derbyshire she is single and with her parents and siblings on
 1861 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7XX-253
 1851 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGDD-P1Z
 1841 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7ST-JM1
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				I don't know if there's any connection here to the Louisa Sadler / Peake
 
 There is this marriage entry but have not been able to establish this couple together on the censuses as yet
 
 SADLER   Louisa
 SPENCER   John A F
 1868 Oldbury, Christ Church   Sandwell Register Office
 
 John Alfred Fowler Spencer died 1899 born c1842
 
 Familysearch has three baptism entries same day
 parents John Alfred Fowler Spencer and Louisa
 
 29 JUN 1880 Oldbury, Worcester
 Ada Kate Spencer (from marriage born c 1877)
 Florence Louisa Spencer
 Frederick Spencer
 
 Marriage 08 May 1898 Warwickshire
 Ada Kate Spencer Age:   21
 Father's Name:   John Alfred Fowler Spencer
 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGD2-8MTY
 
 There's also this baptism (but don't know if her father is same person as above or maybe his son)
 
 Elsie Edith Spencer *  born 10 Feb 1893 }*Bull (written end column)
 Baptism Date:   14 Mar 1893
 Baptism Place:   St Barnabas, Oxfordshire
 Father:   John Alfred Fowler Spencer, gas engineer
 Mother:   Clara Maria
 Privately baptized received into church 22nd March 1893
 
 Elsie Edith SPENCER mmn BULL
 1893  M Quarter in OXFORD  Volume 03A  Page 862
 
 EDITED - Probably complete off track  with above info. as just realised that
 Louisa Sadler & Henry Peake had children from 1868 onwards  ::)
 
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				In 1861 Louisa Sadler b 1839 was single & with parents Robert & Ann
 
 RG9/2506/20/2
 
 Henry & Louisa's daughter Clara was b 1865/66 so if either were previously married it would be between 1861-1865
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				Many thanks to everyone who has replied - you have given me several lines of research which might help me to solve the puzzle.  Very kind of you all to take so much trouble.