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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) => Topic started by: Skinniedipper on Tuesday 19 November 19 00:05 GMT (UK)
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I've just downloaded some OPR Baptism records for the Meikle family in Abercorn in the 1730's and there are a couple of things that I need help with.
Firstly, the father, Alexander Meikle, was shown as a Tenent in Dundervie (possibly Dunlervie). I'm assuming that meant he was a tenant farmer but where/what was Dundervie.
Secondly, on the record for their first son Robert (1731), he is described as "their first son of the second marriage". Does this mean that one of the parents had been married before or is there another meaning. None of the records for their subsequent children included a reference to their marriage.
Thanks,
Douglas,
Queensland, Australia
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I would take this to mean Alexander to have been married previously?
Although both parents are mentioned the male always has priority as you will see from baptisms/christenings sometimes the mother isn't named.
Annie
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Looks like Alexander was married to Gills Dick prior to marrying Agnes Shield & had at least 11 children including twins between the 2 marriages 1712 - 1738 if I have the correct Alexander?
Annie
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Is it possible to post a clip of 'Dundervie (possibly Dunlervie)' with some surrounding text for comparison please?
Closest place name I can find so far is Dalmenie.
Annie
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Could it be Duntarvie?
Annie
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For a better view, zoom out approx. x3
https://canmore.org.uk/site/search/result?NUMLINK=49175&view=map
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Annie
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i've attached two clips. One appears to be Dunlervie and the other looks like Dundervie.
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Sorry that second one wasn't wide enough so I've done it again!! (The preview button never seems to work).
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Firstly, the father, Alexander Meikle, was shown as a Tenent in Dundervie (possibly Dunlervie). I'm assuming that meant he was a tenant farmer but where/what was Dundervie.
Duntarvie.
See http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NT0877 and
https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NT0976
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Skinniedipper,
When delving into Duntarvie's location, be aware that today's Duntarvie dwelling on the map used to be Wester Duntarvie. There was also an Easter Duntarvie (aka Old Duntarvie) (now just a field) immediately to the east of Duntarvie Castle. Both would be separately occupied by tenant farmers. In the first-edition OS map, Easter Duntarvie was more extensive than Wester Duntarvie. My ancestor Thomas Shatton was tenant in Duntarvie by 1787 until his death in 1816 when his son took over for a while, but precisely which part is nearly impossible to tell because in all the records there's never a distinction made between Wester and Easter. However there's an 1855 birth registration which mentions Easter Duntarvie so I've presumed that was the portion of which he was tenant. My understanding is that nearly all Duntarvie was let to George Henderson for 26 years from March 1777 and he sub-let to others, one of whom was my Thomas Shatton. (George Henderson was renowned for going into farms and subtenanting - he had dozens on the go at the same time.)
To complicate matters there was a string of labourers cottages called Duntarvie. As well as Duntarvie Castle which was separate again.
The Hopetoun House archives have a goodly amount of information on Duntarvie from the records of George Henderson (Rent Books, Crop records and so on, even his tenancy agreement) but none go back before 1777. So it's not possible to say whether your Alexander Meikle was a tenant of all or a part of Duntarvie.
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My apologies for not replying sooner
Thanks very much to all those who replied to my post with really great information. It appears that Duntarvie is the location. I also found information on other sites that confirms that Alexander did indeed marry twice.
Thank you so much.
Douglas,
Queensland, Australia