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Title: Greenwood Family of Hebden Hey
Post by: JPRESTON on Sunday 10 November 19 19:45 GMT (UK)
I've unsuccessfully attempted to trace a Herbert Greenwood a teamster (wagon driver) of Hebden Hey or any family. He is quoted in a newspaper report of an inquest in Sept 1939
Houses near Hebden Hey are called Greenwood, but searches in Hebden Bridge are records don't throw up any matches for the family name.
I'm very new to all this, Hebden Hey was swept away after the war and replaced by a scout campsite and their halls/bunkhouses.
Title: Re: Greenwood Family of Hebden Hey
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 10 November 19 19:53 GMT (UK)
We are not permitted to look up the 1939 register for you. But there are 11 Herbert Greenwood s showing in the free part of the index for the Hebden Royd Urban District, which I think would include Hebden Hey. (Wouldn’t it?).

The 1939 register is available on FindMyPast and Ancestry, but I believe the FindMyPast one is more likely to be up to date as far as unlocking locked entries goes.
Title: Re: Greenwood Family of Hebden Hey
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 10 November 19 20:07 GMT (UK)
Hebden Bridge, and Hebden Royd, both fall under the Todmorden Registration District.
So this death looks to be the one:

September qtr 1939
Todmorden Registration District     vol 9a, page 415

Greenwood, Herbert      Age 67

That would put his birth around 1872?
Title: Re: Greenwood Family of Hebden Hey
Post by: JPRESTON on Monday 11 November 19 16:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks to both of you. Several family members visited our grandfather's death site separately to mark 80 years. We have yet to establish if the witness who found him was linked to the family or by chance had the grandfather's middle name.  The more you discover the more questions are unearthed.

It all needs time, something rather scarce with work and other projects. But thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Greenwood Family of Hebden Hey
Post by: avm228 on Monday 11 November 19 17:28 GMT (UK)
Are you concerned that the person who died in 1939 is a mismatch for your grandfather?  What does the inquest report say? 

As you probably know, there were/are Greenwoods galore in the area.
Title: Re: Greenwood Family of Hebden Hey
Post by: JPRESTON on Tuesday 12 November 19 19:39 GMT (UK)
Hi

There is no concern about a mismatch.  A Herbert Greenwood reported finding the body of Herbert Greenwood Preston.  There are uncertain recollections as to HGP having family connections to Hebden Bridge and to what may have happened on that sad day/day before. Sadly this is cousins attempting to pierce together recollections of things they remember my uncle saying about what was a tragic event, that cast a long shadow.

When I have time I will follow up the new leads.  Thank you
Title: Re: Greenwood Family of Hebden Hey
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 12 November 19 20:01 GMT (UK)
The man who found him was not named Herbert Greenwood. He was

Edwin Ruskin Greenwood, teamer, of Wood Hey cottage, Hebden Bridge

09 September 1939 - Shipley Times and Express
Title: Re: Greenwood Family of Hebden Hey
Post by: JPRESTON on Tuesday 12 November 19 20:05 GMT (UK)
Thank you. 
Title: Re: Greenwood Family of Hebden Hey
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 12 November 19 20:14 GMT (UK)
Possible birth reg as Edward.


    Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:
   GREENWOOD, EDWARD  RUSKIN     GREENWOOD 
GRO Reference: 1900  J Quarter in TODMORDEN  Volume 09A  Page 221
Title: Re: Greenwood Family of Hebden Hey
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 12 November 19 20:26 GMT (UK)
He and his brother Eric  to NZ in 1922.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XCW3-4BL?i=34&cc=1609792&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKGM5-QJL

Didn’t last long, I think he married Laura E KITCHEN in 1927.  Todmorden 9a 583. Sept qtr
Title: Re: Greenwood Family of Hebden Hey
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 12 November 19 20:28 GMT (UK)
Mother Lucy and family in 1901

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PZ-H73
Title: Re: Greenwood Family of Hebden Hey
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Monday 18 November 19 16:47 GMT (UK)
Could Malcolm Bull's excellent "Calderdale Companion" site be of any use here?