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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Anthony Beacock on Friday 08 November 19 13:12 GMT (UK)
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Hello Everyone.
I am trying to find anything about the death of Edith Barr at Fitling, East Yorkshire. She apparently drowned in the pond at a farm there called Canham's Farm (sometimes known as Cantram's). I have found the death index from 1913, but trying to prove that she drowned.
We know for definite a girl drowned there. A lot of people in the village know of it and say that "she was a Ford". Her mother's maiden name was Ford and she was living in Fitling with her grandparents, also Fords.
Thank you very much in advance for your help,
Tony.
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Well, £7 would get you the death certificate pdf and you'd find out her cause of death for certain.
Have you looked in online newspaper archives?
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I was going to fall back on that option if I couldn't find anything/anyone on here couldn't find anything.
I have had a look at some, but to no avail. I was trying to find out if there was something in newspapers or anything similar, that I had possibly missed.
Thanks for responding.
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I wonder if this is Edith's headstone …
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/128565027/edith-barr
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I wonder if this is Edith's headstone …
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/128565027/edith-barr
Rowley is 21 miles away from Fitling.
I can't find any reference to a drowning in 1913 for Edith Barr in local newspapers. She 18 years old at the time. How sad. You may want to look for nearby churches in Holderness, they may hold a clue.
Carol
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This is the MI for Owthorne with Fitling, for her plus i would think her parents, altgough it does not say drowned, but here it is
In loving memory of GEORGE HENRY BARR/ died Oct 4th 1908/aged 48yrs/Also ALICE his dear wife/died May 30 1938/aged 71yrs/Also EDITH their daughter/died Dec 26th 1912/aged 18 years/ "At Rest"
PR 1908 Oct 6th George Henry Barr, Rimswell, 49
PR 1938 Jun 2nd Alice Barr, South End, Roos, 71
PR1912 Dec 30th Edith Barr, Fitling, 18yrs
Gogogadgetlegs
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@gogogadgetlegs - Thank you so much for that. I didn't see that whilst I was looking.
Where did you find this please?
I have just seen your private message so I will email you.
Thank you,
Tony.
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Your post may be "past it's sell by date" but I thought I'd share what I know.
Edith was my Grandad John Herbert Barr's sister.
Her death certificate says "accidentally drowned". But also "Dead body found 28th December 1912". Fitling
She is buried with her parents George & Alice in St Mary's Church, Rimswell. The headstone is still present (or it was two years ago).
Her parents lived at Blue Hall Farm, Rimswell and her grandparents (who she lived with as a domestic servant) lived in Garton. I wondered whether she was walking across fields from one property to the other after Christmas?
I still cannot find any newspaper reports about it.
Terry
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Welcome to RootsChat tezzamisterman.
Tony hasn't been online here since May 2021, hopefully he still has the same email address and will receive notification of your post. I'm sure he will be happy to hear from you.
I had a look in newspapers too, and couldn't find anything either.
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Hi Terry,
I do have the same email and did get this, thank you so much!
Do you have a copy of the death certificate that I could take a look at please? That would be amazing! There was someone in the village that showed me a photo of a certificate and sledging from her funeral, but that was a long time ago and was via my ex partner’s family.
A crazy thing happened - I was metal detecting there and I found a women’s silver pocket watch from the 1860s and it was engraved “A. Ford - Fitling”. I did my research and found that Ann Ford was the sister of Edith’s Grandad who lived in Garton (who you mentioned in your post). Ann was at Canham’s Farm in Fitling years before working but passed way before Edith was born. I personally think the pocket watch was given to Edith by her Grandad as it was his sister’s and what a lovely gift to receive on your birthday. I think she fell in and that was lost in the pond. I found it where the pond used to be, as it used to be bigger than it is today.
Crazy story, but I think that it adds up completely well. I have photos of the watch I found somewhere, so I’ll find it but I don’t have access to it as my ex partners family kept it.
Edith was apparently working at the farm, and one story I heard was that she fell in from her bicycle when her dress got caught in the wheel. I’m not sure how true that part is, but nonetheless, a very sad story.
Hope you’re well,
Thank you very much!!
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Sorry for the delay in replying.
I'd love to share the death certificate but cant work out how to attach a file, despite spending ages on it.
Your story about the watch is fascinating.
I was aware of the drowning but could never work out there it occurred. So the info on Canhams farm is very helpful.
If you have any idea of how I could share the certificate, please let me know.
Terry
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Anthony, this is a serious question. In your second paragraph you use the phrase "sledging from her funeral". Is that a typing error as I can find out nothing about the concept? The nearest I could get, was a reference to a Norse funeral in which a sledge was used. I don't think that's relevant here. The only other articles I could find assured me that sledging accidents can lead to funerals. I assure you this is a serious request, I just can't imagine what it could have been if it was a typing error though.
Zaph
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If you have any idea of how I could share the certificate, please let me know.
Terry
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Hi Terry,
It is against Rootschat rules to post certificates on here as it breaches the privacy rules, however, you can share certificates and private information via the personal messaging system.
You do this by clicking on the Text icon under Terry's name.
Carol