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Title: Swedish Records
Post by: JustJean on Sunday 03 November 19 21:44 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone

I need some help reading these records.  I think this is the marriage of Jonas Petersson and ?? in Arby in 1834 (entry #6) https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0026733_00025#?c=&m=&s=&cv=24&xywh=1751%2C1429%2C4125%2C2755 (https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0026733_00025#?c=&m=&s=&cv=24&xywh=1751%2C1429%2C4125%2C2755)

And this is the birth of their daughter Maja Stina 22 Sep 1835 (entry #29) https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0026733_00147#?c=&m=&s=&cv=146&xywh=-666%2C-2%2C7229%2C4828

but I really need some help making sure of this and also translating the entire record for both events.

Thanks for any assistance!
Jean
Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: jamcat95 on Sunday 03 November 19 22:31 GMT (UK)
Hi
The marriage record:
Farmhand Jonas Persson at Applerum with farm maid Ingrid Isacksdotter.

Ian

Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: jamcat95 on Sunday 03 November 19 22:43 GMT (UK)
The birth record:
Born 22 Sept and christened 27 Sept.
Farmer Jonas Peterson and wife Ingelöf Carlsdotter in Säfsjö.
Godparents: Israel Svensson and wife Maja Påfvelsdotter. Sven Petersson farm maid Maria Petersdotter.

Ian

Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: jamcat95 on Sunday 03 November 19 22:43 GMT (UK)
I don't think they are the same couple.

Ian

Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: JustJean on Sunday 03 November 19 23:03 GMT (UK)
Hmmm  based on that I have to agree.  I am certain the birth is correct.  I had found the family in later years in Torsås householder records but by then there was no wife listed for Jonas so I was trying to get her name.  The birth of Maja Stina in Arby all fits but I have not found the family on earlier householder records in Arby.  There were three children supposedly born in Arby and then the others in Torsås .  The last child listed was Carl August b 16 Aug 1850.  Maja Stina marries 18 Oct 1857 to Johannes Andersson.  They are in Binnaretorps Torsås until Jun 1871 when they leave for the US.  I need to look harder I guess....I must be missing something somewhere....

As always...thanks your eyes!!  :)

Jean
Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: JustJean on Sunday 03 November 19 23:28 GMT (UK)
Got the birth of Jonas now but again would like to confirm other names in the record https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0026732_00201#?c=&m=&s=&cv=200&xywh=2565%2C2405%2C3438%2C2296
Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: JustJean on Monday 04 November 19 00:19 GMT (UK)
ok now got the earlier householder schedule thanks to the Ingelöf Carlsdotter translation!  https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0028766_00074#?c=&m=&s=&cv=73&xywh=38%2C850%2C3386%2C1913 

Thank you!
Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: jamcat95 on Monday 04 November 19 08:50 GMT (UK)
It was the norm back then that they would get married in the bride's home parish:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01okn/


Ian

Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: jamcat95 on Monday 04 November 19 08:58 GMT (UK)
Quote from: JustJean on Sunday 03 November 19 23:28 GMT (UK)
Got the birth of Jonas now but again would like to confirm other names in the record https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0026732_00201#?c=&m=&s=&cv=200&xywh=2565%2C2405%2C3438%2C2296

November 23 born, father Peter Påfvelsson's in Säfsjö with his wife Cajsa Håkansdottter's son, and christened 6 December on the 2nd Sunday of Advent.
Witnesses at christening: Farmer Sven Carlsson in Säfsjö, Farmhand Nils Månsson, Sven Carlsson's wife Stina Nilsdotter, Farm maid Stina Håkansdotter in Hundshyllan.

Ian

Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: jamcat95 on Monday 04 November 19 09:04 GMT (UK)
This record should help you out a little to get further back:

Jonas and family in 1825, his father died in 1824:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01oko/

Ian

Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: JustJean on Monday 04 November 19 14:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks Ian for all that.  Especially the brides home parish.   Got one more.  This is the birth of Ingelöf's mother Anna Maria I believe.  Not sure her father's name and the others http://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0028795_00198#?c=&m=&s=&cv=197&xywh=2831%2C56%2C4125%2C2755

Jean
Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: jamcat95 on Monday 04 November 19 15:45 GMT (UK)
Cheers Jean.
The father's name is Pehr Abrahamsson. No mothers name recorded.
Did you get Anna Marie's name from a household book?

Ian

Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: jamcat95 on Tuesday 05 November 19 00:01 GMT (UK)
Here is this family in the 1805 household book:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01okr/

Ian

Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: JustJean on Tuesday 05 November 19 13:28 GMT (UK)
Quote from: jamcat95 on Monday 04 November 19 15:45 GMT (UK)

Did you get Anna Marie's name from a household book?



Yup this one

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0028760_00176#?c=&m=&s=&cv=175&xywh=-596%2C-326%2C5852%2C3306

I haven't encountered the women not having a last name recorded.  That makes more of a challenge!

Thanks for the 1805!

Jean
Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: JustJean on Tuesday 05 November 19 14:35 GMT (UK)
How about the birth of Peter Påfvelsson #41?  I am not seeing a mother named in there either but could be way wrong!  https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0026732_00072#?c=&m=&s=&cv=71&xywh=2414%2C-140%2C4788%2C2755
Title: Re: Swedish Records
Post by: jamcat95 on Tuesday 05 November 19 18:04 GMT (UK)
No mother's name.
Interesting that Paul Jönsson's patronymic name became Påfvelsson.

Ian