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Title: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: alan w jones on Sunday 03 November 19 17:02 GMT (UK)
Hello , was there an 1911 census for Belfast ? Ideally showing occupants of 64 Conway St . Other than that am looking for the marriage of James Murphy born 1884 of that address possibly . He was severely wounded in WW1 so there might be a SWB
Regards
Alan
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: Vimto on Sunday 03 November 19 17:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Alan, yes there was a census in Belfast in 1911. Try this:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/)

You can search for Conway Street in Antrim and get results. A search for "James Murphy" and "Conway Street" drew a blank.

Paul
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: Vimto on Sunday 03 November 19 17:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Alan - do you know James got married - and if so, do you have all or part of her name and when they wed? Or are you unsure if he married?
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 03 November 19 17:31 GMT (UK)

Hi Alan - do you know James got married - and if so, do you have all or part of her name and when they wed? Or are you unsure if he married?


As per this thread...... https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=820931.0

James Murphy died in 1918. His condition was 'Married'.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05174/4427845.pdf

KG

Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 03 November 19 17:32 GMT (UK)
64 Conway Street householders per directories:

1910 Hugh McCarthy
1912 Margaret Cocks
1918 P McDowell

http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 03 November 19 17:35 GMT (UK)

Civil Reg Marriage results for James Murphy of Belfast from 1904 to 1914

LINK-
  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01okj/

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Irish Govt website,,,,safe to use, certs are free.

You possibly know whom he married so easier for you to look.



Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: alan w jones on Sunday 03 November 19 17:43 GMT (UK)
Hello , thanks for replies , it was suggested but not confirmed that his wife might have been Mary and they had one child . I thought if I could find these it might lead to family grave .regards alan
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 03 November 19 17:46 GMT (UK)


Any have Soldier as occupation on Marriage Cert?


Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 03 November 19 17:48 GMT (UK)
1915 Patrick M'Dowell his wife and 4 children were living at 64 Conway St. Belfast.

Do you know when James was wounded?
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: alan w jones on Sunday 03 November 19 17:57 GMT (UK)
He was severely wounded In march 1915 at neuve chapelle  , then hospitalised in England  regards Alan
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 03 November 19 18:24 GMT (UK)


On the Marriage Link posted there were 3 or 4 where Mary was Bride.

If you write their Surnames down you could try looking for child then by doing a few searches entering Mother's surname in box as per example

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/advanced-civil.jsp






Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: alan w jones on Sunday 03 November 19 19:11 GMT (UK)
Hello , I have found his short attestation paper under army pensions . He was discharged on 4/7/1915 and unmarried , living with father James and brother John at Mansion Lodging House  xxxxxxxx street , Belfast { I can't seem to make street name out  ] So at least we now know he married from discharge date to date of death . His army number in the Royal Irish Rifles was 9040.
Regards
Alan
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 03 November 19 19:17 GMT (UK)


Handier again, just a matter of altering Search years.






Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 03 November 19 19:20 GMT (UK)


C Reg Marriage results for James Murphy of Belfast from 1915 to 1918
LINK http://www.rootschat.com/links/01okk/



Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 03 November 19 19:30 GMT (UK)
He was severely wounded In march 1915 at neuve chapelle  , then hospitalised in England  regards Alan

Didn't get me anywhere, too many wounded with nothing but their names, no addresses.
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 03 November 19 19:33 GMT (UK)


Newpaper:

Murphy, James, Rifleman, Royal Irish Rifles, 90 Conway Street Belfast, Wounded,


contact nigel_henderson'at'hotmail.com  for details.
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 03 November 19 19:36 GMT (UK)


Above in Belfast Evening Telegraph
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 03 November 19 19:50 GMT (UK)


Above in Belfast Evening Telegraph

Ah Good, I don't have that one.
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 03 November 19 19:51 GMT (UK)
I am going through the army discharge papers and the date of the Mansion Lodging House, Matilda Street, address isn't clear. It could be from his attestation in 1908.

His address in July 1915 was 90 Conway Street. A later address is 97 Cupar Street.
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: alan w jones on Sunday 03 November 19 19:55 GMT (UK)
Thank you , that would make sense in 1908 on his attestation paper
Regards
Alan
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 03 November 19 19:59 GMT (UK)
Might this be the marriage of James Murphy in 1915?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09827/5568370.pdf

KG

Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 03 November 19 20:04 GMT (UK)



Certainly looks right.

Just a matter of looking for children with mother McCullogh within time frame on Advanced Search posted.



Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: alan w jones on Sunday 03 November 19 20:05 GMT (UK)
Thanks , that looks very likely to me
Much appreciated
Regards
Alan
Title: Re: 1911 census for Belfast ?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 03 November 19 20:30 GMT (UK)
Son James Joseph born 1917 Greencastle-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01298/1537360.pdf
Births less than 100 years old not shown so could be other child(ren)