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Are there any clergy called POOLE in the Shropshire annals anywhere?
How do I find out?
Thank you
IMISON
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Shropshire: Shipton, Ford, Hughley, Hanwood, Wolstaston, Tasley, Sidbury - Parish Registers, Hereford Diocese
Marriages 1758-1812.
Anno D'ni: 1560.
County: Shropshire
Country: England
N.B.--Mr. Poole was Rector about 10 years, and afterwards became Minister of St. Chad's, Salop.
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Wolstaston Marriage Register, 1755.
Shropshire
England
Thomas Poole, Roger Bateman, Churchwardens.
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County: Shropshire
Country: England
Mr. Rich. Poole, Vicar of Brace Meole, bur. 24 Mar 1637.
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County: Shropshire
Country: England
Arthur Mason was Mr. Poole's Curate.
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County: Shropshire
Country: England
Rich. Poole, Rector.
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FROM ANCESTRY ALL IN THE 1812 AND BEFORE
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Dear Maidmarionoops
Thank you so much for this information - it does chime in with what I know of the family history - many of them were clergy of some description, although some were married into the family and not actually called Poole themselves.
How do I find the register to which you refer?
I know that the Midlands heartland was their area, as well as Somerset and the south-west, but a few dispersed to livings in Yorkshire, Lancashire and Derbyshire too. One went to Gravesend, Kent.
One of my cousins was Precentor of the new Coventry Cathedral - Joseph Poole - and he is mentioned on the internet somewhere.
Thank you again for your help - very kind
Best wishes
IMISON
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THE INFO CAME FROM ANCESTRY.COM
SYLVIA
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http://www.theclergydatabase.org.uk/
Person Query
(11 records retrieved)
Poole, Edmund (1676-1686)
Poole, Edward (1723-1724)
Poole, Franciscus (1620-1620)
Poole, Henry (1769-1785)
Poole, John (1816-1817)
Poole, Richard (1781-1781)
Poole, Richardus (1616-1616)
Poole, Robert (1639-1674)
Poole, Thomas (1616-1620)
Poole, Thomas Eyre (1834-1834)
Pooley, George (1831-1831)
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Dear Maidmarionoops
Thank you so much for all your help. That is so kind. I am sure that a few more will pop up elsewhere too!
With best wishes
IMISON
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Hi Imison,
Found these if they are any help to you, 1/jan/1674 Will Poole came in Curate of ye parish of Lybotwwood,
( St Chads Shrewsbury , records )
Richard Poole Curate, signes register till nov 1640.
( same Source )
7/march/1643 Mr Richard Poole minester of this parish was buried.
I did come accross a couple of churchwardens as well, do you want these or are you only intrested in the main office position?. There are 540 hits on my disc with the exact surname POOLE , ( Shrop, parish, register approx 1530/1820) They seem to be pretty evenly spread accross the county,
drop me a line if you want a lookup before 1820 (excluding R.C records, these are not on my disc) and I will do my best,
Best of luck,
regards Pete.
( p.s I spelt Lybotwwood as it is on the register, I think they mean Leebotwood)
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Dear Pete
I would be glad of any references to POOLE that you have.
I know that Church references are strong in the family but do not know everyone - as there are several hundred Poole members.
I know that one of my ancestors WAS a churchwarden so maybe they kept it ECCLESIASTICAL as it were!
I am very grateful to you
best wishes
Imison
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Dear Pete
There are some specific questions surrounding JOSEPH Poole born in Upton Magna, Shropshire about 1834 [in the 1881 census says he is 47].
IF there is anything about POOLE family in Upton Magna and the immediate environs, this would be brilliant as I believe they were farming stock. Joseph himself married Martha [Ree?] and became a BAKER in Staffordshire which became his means of making a living.
Upton Magna is still a very small place with only a few hundred inhabitants so if my family were living there, it is likely that any POOLE members were theirs [also Atcham nearby and Oswestry for example].
Thank you so much
Imison
Hi Imison,
Found these if they are any help to you, 1/jan/1674 Will Poole came in Curate of ye parish of Lybotwwood,
( St Chads Shrewsbury , records )
Richard Poole Curate, signes register till nov 1640.
( same Source )
7/march/1643 Mr Richard Poole minester of this parish was buried.
I did come accross a couple of churchwardens as well, do you want these or are you only intrested in the main office position?. There are 540 hits on my disc with the exact surname POOLE , ( Shrop, parish, register approx 1530/1820) They seem to be pretty evenly spread accross the county,
drop me a line if you want a lookup before 1820 (excluding R.C records, these are not on my disc) and I will do my best,
Best of luck,
regards Pete.
( p.s I spelt Lybotwwood as it is on the register, I think they mean Leebotwood)
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Hi Imison,
Ive just done a walk of the streets of Upton Magna on the 51 disc, unfortunately I cannot find a POOLE surname, Can you give me some names that run through your family, as you will know usually the first male child was chr, after dad, the first female, after the mothers, mother
I live not more then 6 miles from where my genes come from (i think 1783)
and I still do not understand our archaic system of registrations, are you local to Shrewsbury?.
I will find your wardens, and send again
Yours Sincerely, ( now thats old fashioned )
Pete.
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Hi Imison,
Ive just done a walk of the streets of Upton Magna on the 51 disc, unfortunately I cannot find a POOLE surname, Can you give me some names that run through your family, as you will know usually the first male child was chr, after dad, the first female, after the mothers, mother
I live not more then 6 miles from where my genes come from (i think 1783)
and I still do not understand our archaic system of registrations, are you local to Shrewsbury?.
I will find your wardens, and send again
Yours Sincerely, ( now thats old fashioned )
Pete.
Hello again
JOSEPH POOLE was born about 1834 and he married MARTHA [possibly REE]. Both were from Shropshire according to the censuses of England. However, whereas Martha was from BROM CROFT MILL or Bron Croft Mill, Joseph Poole was from Upton Magna.
Unfortunately I have no idea of the predecessors. That is what I am searching for.
I am of the belief that REVEREND JOHN POOLE of Enmore Somerset was an ancestor too.
Thank you very much
Imison
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1861 census
Catharine Poole 1859 Walsall Staffordshire D Ogley Hay
Elias Albert Poole 1860 " S "
Elisabeth Julia Poole 1857 " D "
Esther Ann Poole 1858 " D "
Joseph Poole 1835 Upton Magna Shropshire England H "
Martha Poole 1834 " W "
Martha Ree Poole 1860 Walsall D "
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found this marriage Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years 1856 to 1860 506/1/301
Poole Joseph Barton Martha Congleton St Peter Cheshire East
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sylvia
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Elias Poole Head U Male 21 Walsall, Stafford, England Baker
Catherine Poole Si U Female 22 "
Josiah Poole B U Male 17 " "
Edward Poole B Male 15 " "
Bertha A. Poole S Female 12 Brown Hills Stafford
1881 census
chester rd bridge house
census place norton canes stafford
no parents
sylvia
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1861 census
Catharine Poole 1859 Walsall Staffordshire D Ogley Hay
Elias Albert Poole 1860 " S "
Elisabeth Julia Poole 1857 " D "
Esther Ann Poole 1858 " D "
Joseph Poole 1835 Upton Magna Shropshire England H "
Martha Poole 1834 " W "
Martha Ree Poole 1860 Walsall D "
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found this marriage Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years 1856 to 1860 506/1/301
Poole Joseph Barton Martha Congleton St Peter Cheshire East
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sylvia
Dear Sylvia
Thank you very much for looking for me - I am most grateful.
It makes me wonder if the marriage you found might be either the said Joseph and Martha who are my ancestors.
I know that Martha had a short surname but it was indecipherable when we saw the original document [now, unfortunately, lost] and it looked like a surname of Ree or Pee or Pec. There was a Martha Ree in Shropshire that I found in the 1851 census but I could find nothing for Joseph Poole at all in the 1851 census. However, some of the census is lost. Maybe Joseph and his family were in the lost documentation.
I do not have many other names for the family, as POOLE was the main one in that family.
The 1861 census you show is definitely the right one.
Also the 1881 census.
I know that DAVIS was in the family because FRANK DAVIS is shown as a NEPHEW in a census in the late nineteenth century.
If this means that Frank Davis was the nephew of JOSEPH, this would mean, probably, that Joseph Poole had a SISTER who married someone called DAVIS and then she had a child called Frank. There is only one slight problem with this - by 1881 Joseph was almost 50, and any sister of his would likely to have been MUCH younger to be of child-bearing age in the last quarter of the nineteenth century. Not impossible but needs bearing in mind. Of course, Frank Davis might be a GREAT-NEPHEW and that would muddy the waters further!!
Thank you again for all your help
Imison
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Researching my Poole ancestors looked at Parish Record fiche for Montford Parish 1662-1812. Found a Joseph Pool was churchwarden there in 1744. Have lists of Pool(e) entries for Montford if any use to you.
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Dear Maggie
I had a computer crash and never realised you had written - my apologies.
I notice you say you have Poole ancestors. Where is Montford?
I would be most interested to know your information
best wishes
Rosy
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Hi Rosy, my Pool (e) ancestors lived in the Alberbury and Montford areas of Shropshire- about 10 miles from Shrewsbury. Found the Joseph Pool in the Montford fiche but do not know if he was related to my Pools. My great grandfather was Edward Poole b. 1847Montford, his parents were William b 1805 Alberbury and Harriet b 1808. I believe William had brothers Thomas 1804, John1807, Benjamin 1812, Edward 1815, Robert 1817 and Sarah 1819 , all born Alberbury.
Best wishes,
Maggie
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Dear Maggie
I am fascinated, as my grandfather had associations with Lichfield, and Shrewsbury.
I have no idea who HIS grandfather was. I know that his father was JOSEPH POOLE who married MARTHA [possibly "Ree"].
My great-grandfather, Joseph Poole, was born in Shropshire but I cannot find HIS parents.
I am of the belief that the Reverend John Poole of ENMORE was an ancestor but cannot prove it other than a painting shows family likeness.
One of my cousins was PRECENTOR of Coventry Cathedral in the 1960s. Does this ring any bells at all?
best wishes
Rosy
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Hi Imison,
If you are still looking for info.
I have access to a definitive family tree of Rev.Thomas Poole, there is a direct descendant who still lives nearby, and the family historian has copious detail (much compiled by Re. Thomas Poole himself.).
I have an interest in the Ruscombe Poole branch of the family in Somerset.
I have details of a book written by Elizabeth Poole (1733 - 1819) called 'The Shropshire Journal of Mrs. Elizabeth Poole' - this details a visit by Mrs. Poole to her relatives in Shropshire - its actually a reprint of her diary.
If my recollection serves me, she must have been married to Rev. Thomas Poole's brother.
Let me know if any of this rings a bell.
Regards
Pete.
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Dear Pete
YES, indeed.
Was this the vicar of ENMORE?
There is a painting of him I believe.
And he founded the school.
And was a friend of a famous poet I believe.
A great philanthropist.
If you could place here the details of Mrs Elizabeth Poole, that would be brilliant!
Thank you so much
IMISON
Hi Imison,
If you are still looking for info.
I have access to a definitive family tree of Rev.Thomas Poole, there is a direct descendant who still lives nearby, and the family historian has copious detail (much compiled by Re. Thomas Poole himself.).
I have an interest in the Ruscombe Poole branch of the family in Somerset.
I have details of a book written by Elizabeth Poole (1733 - 1819) called 'The Shropshire Journal of Mrs. Elizabeth Poole' - this details a visit by Mrs. Poole to her relatives in Shropshire - its actually a reprint of her diary.
If my recollection serves me, she must have been married to Rev. Thomas Poole's brother.
Let me know if any of this rings a bell.
Regards
Pete.
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Dear Pete
I would love to have all the details you have on ALL that you have, because I am sure that this is my family tree too.
I have been searching for this documentation for many, many years and would dearly love to have the copies.
Thank you so much for your kindness --- are you part of the Poole family too?
With best wishes
IMISON
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Hi Imison
The poet was a chap called Samuel Taylor Coleridge......
His cottage in Nether Stowey was lent to him by Rev.Thomas Poole.
Rev Thomas Poole was a nephew of Rev.Edward Poole who started the first free school in England at Enmore.
I am in contact with the descendants of Rev.Thomas Poole, as I mentioned they have the family tree in great detail - I believe it was compiled by your Rev John Poole but am not 100%.
I will pm you my e.mail address - the chap I am in contact with is the guy you need to talk to, but he only has a landline number.
I am not related, I have been researching our house which was built by a solicitor, Joseph Ruscombe Poole in the 1860's and have just sort of wandered into the Poole family history!
I dont have a copy of the diary but the chap I can put you into contact with is the author!!
Regards
Pete.
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Dear Pete
That is wonderful news!
I would love to know the family history of the Poole family. Joseph Ruscombe Poole - solicitor --- did he go to Cambridge University by any chance?
And whereabouts did he build his house? Was it near Upton Magna or Shrewsbury or in Somerset?
I am really excited by all of this as I am sure it is my long-lost relatives.
With best wishes
IMISON
Hi Imison
The poet was a chap called Samuel Taylor Coleridge......
His cottage in Nether Stowey was lent to him by Rev.Thomas Poole.
Rev Thomas Poole was a nephew of Rev.Edward Poole who started the first free school in England at Enmore.
I am in contact with the descendants of Rev.Thomas Poole, as I mentioned they have the family tree in great detail - I believe it was compiled by your Rev John Poole but am not 100%.
I will pm you my e.mail address - the chap I am in contact with is the guy you need to talk to, but he only has a landline number.
I am not related, I have been researching our house which was built by a solicitor, Joseph Ruscombe Poole in the 1860's and have just sort of wandered into the Poole family history!
I dont have a copy of the diary but the chap I can put you into contact with is the author!!
Regards
Pete.
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There was Daniel Poole who was headmaster of Oswestry School. His will is on the Nat. Lib of Wales site. I seem to remember he was a Rev.
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Dear David
I am really very excited by this.
When did the Reverend Poole become Headmaster at Oswestry School?
Do you know what was said in the will, and when did he die?
How do I get information from the National Library of Wales?
Thank you so much for your kind help
IMISON
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You can find the will here:
http://bit.ly/blJki6
He was headmaster of Oswestry School from 1705 to 1716.
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You can find the will here:
http://bit.ly/blJki6
He was headmaster of Oswestry School from 1705 to 1716.
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So, I guess he died in 1716.
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Hi
Not sure if this post has duplicated - a few technical problems!
Looking at the various posts above, there seems to be a bit of confusion. The Rev. Thos Poole is not the same as the Tom Poole who was a friend of Coleridge, Philanthropist etc from Nether Stowey. Tom was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth, brother to Richard and Sarah and cousin to the Rev John Poole from Enmore. Together they founded the school in Nether Stowey.
I have quite a detailed family tree for this Poole family (my husband's) - a lot of it on paper which I am trying to put in order.
Anything I can help with, please ask.
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I would be delighted to know the details of your husband's POOLE family tree.
I am not at all surprised that the Rev Thos Poole is NOT the same as Tom Poole, friend of Coleridge, as it transpires that the surname "Poole" is about the one hundredth most COMMON name in England!
with best wishes
Imison
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Thanks for replying so quickly. Land line numbers are fine.
How do I access a pm mail?
Great news. Thanks. Sarah