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Hello, i am trying to find any information on Elizabeth Hamilton. I think she may have married Joesph Brady in 1888-9 in Auckland NZ.She may have had a brother William John Hamilton.Hoping someone can help or may know of the family, Thank you
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The marriage
You will need to order the printout from NZ BDM
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dMarriageSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults
1888/1986 Elizabeth Hamilton Joseph Brady
Three likely children
1896/1141 Brady Eileen Jane Elizabeth Joseph
1889/4142 Brady Samuel Joseph Elizabeth Joseph
1892/810. Brady Janet Elizabeth Joseph
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1888/1986 Elizabeth Hamilton to Joseph Brady
1910/7093 Janet Brady to George Sidney Ardley
1918/2558 Eileen Jane Brady to James Straker Jackson
Jamjar
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1910/7093 Janet Brady to George Sidney Ardley
Jamjar
That Janet is a daughter of Martin Brady
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/LT19110111.2.2.2?end_date=31-12-1950&items_per_page=10&query=George+Sidney+ardley+&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1888
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Ok, have crossed off Janet. I can’t see anything else for her or Samuel.
1975/37398 Jackson Eileen Jane, birth 31 December 1895
Jamjar
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Could this be Joseph?
1908/6593 Brady Joseph 46Y
Buried: https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=7C3E6428960A7C9139207EEC5D3B5C81
Jamjar
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Maybe . Death notice says Michael Joseph. Wife is Elizabeth
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19081029.2.2.2?end_date=31-12-1908&items_per_page=10&query=Joseph+Brady&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1908
And yet registered as Joseph
1908/6593 Brady Joseph 46Y
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James Straker Jackson, burial:
https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=711D8CEF18692AF2D398C51B999B1DBF
Eileen Jane, burial: https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=89E220534B9FF4B884885B9781B9E865
Jamjar
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1908/6593 Brady Joseph 46Y
Unless my maths is wrong, that makes the birth 1862.
Cheers
KHP
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Why not?
1888 - 1862 = 26
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Why not?
1888 - 1862 = 26
I put it out there, for future searchers ;D
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1908/6593 Brady Joseph 46Y
Unless my maths is wrong, that makes the birth 1862.
Cheers
KHP
Why not? Think I must be missing something.
If married in 1888, could he not have been born in 1862?
Jamjar
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Why not? Think I must be missing something.
Jamjar
Not at all ... quite often in the past, with death dates and ages, we have put down the year of the birth .... nothing strange about it.
Cheers
KHP
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Why not? Think I must be missing something.
Jamjar
Not at all ... quite often in the past, with death dates and ages, we have put down the year of the birth .... nothing strange about it.
Cheers
KHP
It seems you edited your post, as I’m sure it said that it wasn’t our man. Hence my question, ‘why not’?
Jamjar
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Guilty as charged, quartered and hanged! ;D
Cheers
KHP
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I think this has Elizabeth Brady living with another man, November 1908:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/PBH19081128.2.30?end_date=31-12-1930&items_per_page=100&phrase=2&query=Elizabeth+Brady&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA&start_date=01-01-1908
1909: https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/PBH19090111.2.22?end_date=31-12-1930&items_per_page=100&phrase=2&query=Elizabeth+Brady&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA&start_date=01-01-1908
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/PBH19090305.2.3?end_date=31-12-1930&items_per_page=100&phrase=2&query=Elizabeth+Brady&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA&start_date=01-01-1908
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WH19121219.2.21?end_date=31-12-1930&items_per_page=100&phrase=2&query=Elizabeth+Brady&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA&start_date=01-01-1908
And possibly more...
Jamjar
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Could this be the death of Joseph.......
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/HAST18980126.2.10?end_date=31-12-1898&items_per_page=10&query=joseph+brady&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1898
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/HBH18980127.2.5?end_date=31-12-1898&items_per_page=10&query=joseph+brady&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1898
1898/6331 Brady Joseph 36Y
Minniehaha.
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But then, maybe not........
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193550542/joseph-brady
Minniehaha.
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I’m wondering if this is Eileen and Samuel as Joseph? The ages are correct. Not sure about the Annie.
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19100412.2.57?items_per_page=100&phrase=2&query=Eileen+Brady&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA
Jamjar
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Then again, the NZ Police Gazettes have a Joseph Brady born 1889, and Samuel Joseph is the only one showing for that year.
This Joseph had aliases as Joseph Michael or John Michael. Assault, default on child maintenance, bad language etc
Then there is this date of death:
Name :BRADY John Michael
Date :28 Oct 1950
Reference number :22490
Occupation:a seaman
Residence: Waipahi
Came from Waipahi
Age / Where born
51 years / -
Province
Burial date : 31 Oct
Class/Plt 1/Plt 2/Blk
C / 11 / - / SF 11
Informant : Hope & Kinaston
Remarks: new ground - Authority granted
This more or less fits with what Jamjar found.
Cheers
KHP
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Marriage of a daughter of Eileen and James:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19440603.2.2.3?items_per_page=100&phrase=2&query=James+Straker+Jackson&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA.rev
Birth of another daughter:
1919/1771 Jackson Kathleen Mary mother Eileen Jane father James Straker
Marriage: 1938/5334 Kathleen Mary Jackson to Albert Roy Pont
Do an Inet search for Albert Roy Pont and you will get the names of their children etc.
Headstone: https://billiongraves.com/grave/KATHLEEN-MARY-PONT/6075631
Jamjar
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I’m wondering if this is Eileen and Samuel as Joseph? The ages are correct. Not sure about the Annie.
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19100412.2.57?items_per_page=100&phrase=2&query=Eileen+Brady&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA
Jamjar
Hi, thanks for all this colourful information, i had seen this article and i think the Samuel Joseph Brady 1889 may have dropped the Samuel and gone by Joseph
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Further to reply #19 there is headstone photograph........
https://www.dunedin.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/cemeteries-search?recordid=21912&type=Burial
Added: His death notice......
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT19501030.2.2.2?end_date=31-12-1950&items_per_page=10&query=john+michael+brady&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1950&title=ODT
Minniehaha.