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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: hilarykellis on Wednesday 30 October 19 22:19 GMT (UK)
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Mark Wyse was born as Michael Wyse to Irish-born parents Andrew and Jane Nickle Wyse in Buffalo, NY in Nov. 1851. His father was Catholic and his mother was Protestant but they married in a Catholic Church and Michael was baptised a Catholic.
By 1861, the family moved to Eramosa, ON, Canada. In 1870, they had moved to Sleeping Bear, Michigan. And the Michael/Mark disappears.
When he reappears, it’s 1898 and he is marrying Anne Hatt in Lions Head (Eastnor), Ontario and he how goes by Mark. He also seems to be Protestant now, as he marries in a Protestant ceremony and lists himself as Church of England in future records. He says he is a Bachelor and a mason.
He stays in the Lions Head area and appears in 1901, 1911, and 1921 census before dying there in 1928.
So where did he go for 28 years? Why did he change his name? Worth mentioning is that his entire family stayed in Michigan. He may have left for work, but I cannot find him in any census records in either Canada or the States.
Also unusual is how late he married Anne. He was 47, an unusual age for a first marriage at that time. They had several children.
Any help on where he might have disappeared to is much appreciated!
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Name change may have been to seem less Irish or not Catholic, if being either was a disadvantage to him.
Are you sure he was the same person?
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Also unusual is how late he married Anne. He was 47, an unusual age for a first marriage at that time. They had several children.
Where did you get his age at marriage? The marriage registration says he was 37 years old, not 47.
Link to registration:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ok8/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ok8/)
Jacquie
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Age says 37, marriage 1898, so born 1860/1861. So he was not telling the truth? Gives correct parents for Michael born 1851. Was there a Mark born 1861?
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In the 1861 census he is RC, all his younger siblings are C of E, surname as Wise
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Surname also Wise in 1871, no brother Mark.
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As he has with family previously moved between USA and Canada, he can avoid censuses by being in the wrong country at census time in the other.
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What ages and professions does he claim in 1901, 1911, and 1921?
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born 1857/8 in 1901
1861 in 1911
1854/5 in 1921
His wife was a lot younger.....
Farmer
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Also unusual is how late he married Anne. He was 47, an unusual age for a first marriage at that time. They had several children.
Where did you get his age at marriage? The marriage registration says he was 37 years old, not 47.
Link to registration:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ok8/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ok8/)
Jacquie
Got age 47 from his baptism in 1851. I know this is his baptism because the parents’ names match on his death certificate and because he is named is his father’s will (as Michael but signed as Mark). So I assume he lied about his age to close the big age gap between himself and his new bride.
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In the 1861 census he is RC, all his younger siblings are C of E, surname as Wise
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Surname also Wise in 1871, no brother Mark.
Michael and Mark were the same person, as he is named as Michael of Lions Head in his father’s will in 1893, and signs as Mark.
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I am assuming that we want him in 1880/1 and 1890/1 censuses, as either Michael or Mark, and possibly varying in age from births between 1851 to 1861.
No occupation on 1870, mason at marriage, but then farmer for next 3 censuses, so could be doing anything.
Just to summarise, I hope approximately correct.
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I am assuming that we want him in 1880/1 and 1890/1 censuses, as either Michael or Mark, and possibly varying in age from births between 1851 to 1861.
No occupation on 1870, mason at marriage, but then farmer for next 3 censuses, so could be doing anything.
Just to summarise, I hope approximately correct.
Perfectly summarised, thank you!
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In the 1861 census he is RC, all his younger siblings are C of E, surname as Wise
Were the younger siblings of both sexes? A compromise of mixed marriage couples in Ireland was for sons to follow father's denomination and daughters their mother's. It might depend on availability of clergymen.
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When I looked at the census I wondered if that had happened, but, from memory, no.