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General => Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing => Topic started by: jillruss on Wednesday 23 October 19 16:09 BST (UK)
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Ancestry have updated my ethnicity estimate - and I've lost my 6% Swedish bit! I had dreams of finding the link and establishing contact with an ancestor who would then invite me over to live there permanently.
Since I did my DNA test, I've used that 6% Swedish connection to explain my dislike of sunbathing and even of being too warm. ;D And now its gone!!! :'( Just like that!! :'(
Mind you, there's still no sign of my Scottish links or even, strangely enough, any breakdown of my Englishness that includes the area my father and all of his ancestors came form: Bucks/Berks.
I don't want to be 100% England, Wales (not a Welsh bone in my body so far, look you!) & NW Europe (though, surely that would include Sweden?).
I really don't understand these people who do the test purely for the ethnicity results. Apparently 'guano' means the same in Swedish as it does in English!!!
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Sorry for your loss ;) ;) ;)
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You'll have to get a part time job at IKEA to compensate ;)
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Likewise with IgorStrav. ;)
I know how you feel - I have recently just lost the 3% Norway that I had. The biggest blow though was that I have 11% less Irish. :o Gutted! Especially, as I feel the most closely connected with my Irish ancestors overall. Oh well, I could drown my sorrows with a Guinness. ;)
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I had quite a lot of Scandi to start with and then it was all taken away. Now, I've regained 2% Swedish. Skol! :D
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I've had my 3% Norwegian returned (nicked from my England, Wales, etc bit) and my Scottish/Irish has increased by 2%.
I still feel the same ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I think my mother acquired it from you!
On a good note, just wait a bit and you might get it back ::)
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I am going to write to Ancestry and ask them why they have nicked my 3% Norwegian and given this to you Gadget. ;) As well as 2% of my Irish! I wonder who they have given my other 9% loss too. ???
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My sympathies Jill. My poor OH lost his Swedish element in the last DNA update as well but we were really suprised he had any in the first place.
However I recently went in the other direction and now have 7% Norwegian for the first time!!
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Sweden up to 10% from 7%. Norway up to 9% from 6%. Still have no known Scandinavian ancestors, but I believe that there is Viking ancestry in people from the Fen country, where a fair proportion of my forbears came from.
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I popped over to My Heritage as I'd forgotten what they'd said I was. Compared with Ancestry, the English estimate is the same but my Scandinavian is much higher and the Scots/Welsh/Irish is lower!
What was entertaining was the ability on My Heritage to have ones ethnicity introduced via music from the regions. I'd not noticed that before.
::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
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I popped over to My Heritage as I'd forgotten what they'd said I was. Compared with Ancestry, the English estimate is the same but my Scandinavian is much higher and the Scots/Welsh/Irish is lower!
What was entertaining was the ability on My Heritage to have ones ethnicity introduced via music from the regions. I'd not noticed that before.
::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Oh! I like that idea, Gadget. In which case I demand my Scottish blood be recognised as I'm one of the few people who actually love the bagpipes (played well!).
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I lost my 2% Sweden, Ireland and Scotland decreased by 2%, England, Wales and Northern Europe increased by 1% , and Finland increased by 3% (Finland is now at 74%). However, when I look at my Family Tree DNA results, the Finnish part is only about 54% with the other regions having higher percentages.
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Donner und Blitzen! I've gained 11% Northern Germany having had no previous indication! I have got two separate ancestral lines with the name Henning which I had assumed came from an English village but am now suspecting originated in Germany. My wife has lost her 2%German and 2% Swedish and gained 2%Norway instead. With a Kirchner in her ancestry I thought I could explain the German bit too!
Whatever next?
A bemused Phil.
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My husband is delighted :)
His has gone from 99% Irish to 100%
I think mine has gone up but I can’t remember what it was :-\
My 7% Iberian was removed on the first revision - I was sad :(
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I've lost my Norwegian and Swedish, they were 2% and 3% respectively.
Prior to this update my highest percentage was Scottish/Irish broken down to Fife & Angus and Ross & Cromarty. Which was accurate as that's where most of my paper trail is.
After that it was English/Welsh & NW European with no breakdown.
Now I'm 55% English, Welsh, NW European and 45% Scottish/Irish with the same communities.
The vast majority of my ancestors are Scottish.
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Having checked my own updates, I'm now 26% Germanic Europe!
Gratified to read that (according to Ancestry) this area is
Known as Das Land der Dichter und Denker (“the land of poets and thinkers”), Germany is home to some of the oldest universities in the world, and this region has a long tradition of producing world-class scientists, inventors, theologians, artists, and composers.
It's a wide area, covering much of Northern Europe
It's spooky, they might have been describing my family -
my Flanders relatives (hairdressers, laundresses, labourers, cigar makers) fit right in :D
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I'm now 100% Ireland and Scotland. I've lost 2% England Wales and NW Europe.
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My wife has just explained some of the changes! She pointed out that ancestry is American and they had clearly thought that Norway was Sweden ..... :)
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I think mine has gone up but I can’t remember what it was :-\
If you click on the Updated button on the estimate box, then click on Learn more...., then click on View previous estimate, you'll get it ;D
That's if you really want to know!
My niece just texted me to say that they'd changed her DNA and I had to explain that it was still very pinch of salt. She was relieved.
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OK I accept my 76% England, Wales and NW Europe. That consists of Devon, Cornwall and Kent. Yep got that. Now where does Somerset fit it? Two great grandparents came from there.
Ireland and Scotland 17% has me confused. Could that be my liking of bagpipes or was I infected by my ex husband.
The thing that really worries me is my possible link to Southern Louisiana French Settlers around the Mississippi River and Baton Rouge. If they can work that out why can’t they find my generations of Somerset blood?
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I've yet to send my DNA off but using my brothers...
89.6% British & Irish
5.7% French & German
0.1% Broadly Melanesian
To date all our ancestry paper trail is Scottish/English/Irish
I've yet to find a European link nor Melanesian (which I need to look up) as I've never heard of it ::)
I'm neither up nor down to be honest as there's never been any rumour of foreign blood to chase ;D but I believe my maternal surname 'Jude' is highly likely to be European further back as it's not a common name in England where my paper trail leads back to early 1700s.
Annie
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Annie, :D 0.1% Broadly Melanesian ... :) :) :) :) Some of the South Sea Islands to the north and north-east of Australia eg... Papua New Guinea, Naura, Solomon Islands, New Caledonia, .... its that 'Caledonia' link coming through.
JM :P :P
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Some of the South Sea Islands to the north and north-east of Australia eg... Papua New Guinea, Naura, Solomon Islands, New Caledonia, .... its that 'Caledonia' link coming through.
JM :P :P
JM...I'm pushing that to the side for now as this is what I've just found!!! :o ;D...
"Maternal Haplogroup
Your haplogroup, shared with Marie Antoinette, traces the long line of women in your family tree."
I can now rush out & tell the world I'm related to Marie Antoinette!
I knew there was a reason I had to buy her book in secondary school.
Away to 'update' my tree which may take a while i.e. any help on that line will be appreciated :P
I think I may need to start a new thread for my new found connection :D
Annie...(½ Scottish & ½ Irish) i.e. only ½ daft
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Marie Antoinette ... wow ... I have never known anyone who descended from her ...
ADD
http://mentalfloss.com/article/25186/what-happened-marie-antoinettes-children
JM
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Marie Antoinette ... wow ... I have never known anyone who descended from her ...
JM..not descended, only shared i.e. from her ancestors?
I've just taken that pinch of salt & back to reality ;D
Annie
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Marie Antoinette ... wow ... I have never known anyone who descended from her ...
ADD
http://mentalfloss.com/article/25186/what-happened-marie-antoinettes-children
JM
It just means they share a common female ancestor. It could be from thousands of years ago as mDNA is slow to change.
I have the same maternal haplogroup as Meryl Streep. ;D
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My wife has just explained some of the changes! She pointed out that ancestry is American and they had clearly thought that Norway was Sweden ..... :)
The borders were fairly fluid in the past and for part of its history Norway has been governed by both Sweden and Denmark :)
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Very unhappy! - No not really! Ive gone down from 100% Ireland & Scotland, to 96 % Ireland & Scotland, and 4% England, Wales & North West Europe - but it (the 4%) could range from 0 - 4%, they say, and 'your connection to this region is most likely through ancestors linked to this community - Scottish Lowlands, Northern England & Northern Ireland'.
So, to summarise, Ive lost my 100% Scottish/Irish, because of ancestors living in Scotland & Ireland ( well -- nearly, I have to acknowledge that Northern England I suppose ;) ;D).
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I've just checked my Dad's ethnicity- he's still 100 % Scottish/Irish - so I can blame my mother ! - but no, I've just noticed, he has not had an update! Ah.... this is too much. :-[ :'(
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Marie Antoinette ... wow ... I have never known anyone who descended from her ...
JM..not descended, only shared i.e. from her ancestors?
I've just taken that pinch of salt & back to reality ;D
Annie
So, shall we just say you lost your head??!!! ;D ;D ;D
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No, no, no .... oh no ..... not so.... she's always mentioning about some lost census...
JM :P :P
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Hi all, as a newby with dna testing (I have just sent my test to ancestry) how does this updating happen? I thought once done that was it????
Cheers Chris
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Hi all, as a newby with dna testing (I have just sent my test to ancestry) how does this updating happen? I thought once done that was it????
Cheers Chris
Your DNA data does not change, but how it is analysed may change. They are regularly refining the ethnicity estimates as more data for reference populations becomes available. The other thing, most important from a genealogy viewpoint, which is dynamic is your match list. That will be added to as more people who match you take tests.
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OK, thanks Craclyn, that makes sense!
I must admit, I am waiting in anticipation for my result now.
As you can see from my name/country list I have researched a bit and hope to be proven right with dna.
A distant cousin located me only yesterday from Sydney (I am in SAus) and it was a thrill to tell her "hell, yes, we are rellies"
Cheers,
Chris
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I expect you will have a lot of fun when your match list arrives Chrissiecruiser :)
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Well ive gone from being 100% England,Wales and NW Europe,which I could never understand given my research,to 80% England Wales and NW Europe,13% Scotland and Ireland and 7% Norway.This fits much more closely with what I now know.given Hugenot ancestors,Irish and others.Ive also found some born in Switzerland who are from Scotland in 1600s.Ive also found some way back 1600s who are from Ireland,but went to America,some generations born there,in Orange County,then came back,but some died there.dont understand all that yet.
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My Irish went from the original 40% (I think. I had it tested several years ago and don't think I can access it on Ancestry now) amended down to 32%. Now bizarrely gone back up to 38%.
I can't wait to see what the next adjustment will produce....100% Irish? No Irish at all?
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I opened another email this morning which told me that my results have been updated again through the refining process. That is the second time this week. Great! I thought .. now hopefully they might have restored my dropped percentage in Irish. However, my results are exactly the same as the updated version from the other day and I am still now only 49% for Irish - a drop from my original of 60%. Oh well, I will live in hope that perhaps tomorrow things might be different .. ;)
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I opened another email this morning which told me that my results have been updated again through the refining process. That is the second time this week. Great! I thought .. now hopefully they might have restored my dropped percentage in Irish. However, my results are exactly the same as the updated version from the other day and I am still now only 49% for Irish - a drop from my original of 60%. Oh well, I will live in hope that perhaps tomorrow things might be different .. ;)
The email usually arrives a few days after the actual update :)
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Oh well that explains things - I must have seen my first update of the week on the site and then got my (what I thought was second update) today via email. I thought that was quick work in advancement with the 'refining' process.
I still live in hope though that my Irish might get increased again one day. I have been quite proud telling all and sundry that my estimates had indicated 60% originally. Now I feel like a dog with a tail between its legs at the thought of having to back track and tell people I am only 49%. I am not even 50-50. :-\ Oh dear! I did really want to be more on the side of my Irish ancestors. As I say, I live in hope for the next refining update. ;D ;)
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RTL, Have you looked at the range on your Irish? The 49% may not be the top of the range.
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I have taken a quick photo of my estimate - can you see something I can't, Craclynn?
I just hope you are not going to tell me I am even less Irish .. :o
Also all those Monaghans .. does this mean broken down my ancestors are from South Monaghan?
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Click on Ireland and Scotland. That will take you to another screen which says «Your ethnicity estimate is 49%, but it can range from x% to x%.» There is an information button after that to explain how the ranges work.
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Thanks for that Craclynn, it records that my range could be 39% to 66% .. so it could be worse but it also could be better .. I will veer on the optimistic side and tell myself that I might very well be 66% .. which will mean that I am 6% up from when I started. I know this might not necessarily be true but I do like this possibility. :D
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This is what my update states.
I don't have any breakdown of the England, Wales and NW Europe, but I do have a breakdown of my Scottish region.
The regions of Scotland are accurate as the vast majority of my paper trail ancestry is in Angus/Kincardineshire and Ross & Cromarty.
As for the England, Wales and NW Europe now being higher than my Scottish ancestry; I'm baffled. I have one possible English ancestor born approx 1780. I don't know anything about her parentage, other than in 1841 she stated as being born in England.
Not quite sure what's going on there. There is an unknown 2x great-grandfather who had an illegitimate child (my great-grandmother) in 1883 in Aberdeenshire. A lot of my matches have links to Northern Ireland and names such as Gallacher, O'Neill etc, but cannot place them.
Just surprised the English percentage has now overtaken my Scottish.
EDIT: Why do I not have a region breakdown in the English, Welsh and NW Europe section?
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You don’t have a region breakdown because they are not able to match you with a specific community.
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EDIT: Why do I not have a region breakdown in the English, Welsh and NW Europe section?
I'm currently at 66% English, Welsh and NW Europe and the best breakdown it can give me is that I have some Welsh ancestry (which, as one great grandparent was most definitely Welsh isn't a huge surprise.)
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So funny ;D
I think I received the OPs Swedish 9%
I also gained 8% Irish/Scottish
However, my DNA test has been great at helping to uncover my Gt Grandma’s
origins
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Interesting to see how this latest Ancestry update has affected so many with Swedish ethnicity - I too have lost my 3% Scandinavian and become 50% English.
Strange that on MyHeritage I remain 21% Scandinavian and 79% Irish, Scottish and Welsh and no English !
Thankfully I do appreciate that its only an estimate otherwise I would not know who to support in the Rugby this weekend.
Maybe time will make these estimates more accurate - meanwhile treat it as a bit of fun.
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Well I ve acquired 5% Swedish & 1% Norwegian.I had 4% Norwegian before & I m 4 % more Irish / Scottish.The first results I received were 90% British.
My family name is Irish.3 of my grandparents had Irish descent one had Scottish as well.My other grandparent had celtic from Cornwall & Devon.My latest results are more realistic.With appropiate % of each .But my original result had west asian . Waiting for another update to see what changes.
But I do admit that my matches are all accurate.I have matches from all four grandparents.