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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: Lady Di on Monday 21 October 19 13:16 BST (UK)
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Hi folks,
I'm searching for a marriage for Robert SLARK/e to Phillis (unknown) abt 1742-1749.
(Surname may be transcribed as HARK/e etc)
I believe that Robert Slark was bp 1722 at St Gregory's Norwich (son of John & Eliz)
First child's christening I've found was:
Phillis SLARK/e 18 Oct 1749 St Stephen's Norwich
then Elizabeth in 1750/1 at St Stephens.
Then Mary in 1753 at St Lawrence plus a few extra children all bp in Norwich
Both Robert & Phillis SLARK were buried in 1766 at St Gregory's Norwich.
Any ideas about where/when they married would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
Di
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Hello Di,
Spent some time looking for this marriage - to no avail.
So many different transcriptions - Stark, Stack, Slack, Slank
Had a good look on the Family Search site - a few interesting records.
John Slark's will, and a fascinating inventory - plus some St Gregory's Parish Chest entries, showing John as one of the churchwardens.
If you haven't already seen them, happy to send you links.
Yorkslass
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Thanks for spending time looking for these records. It does appear that Robert & Phillis may not have married or did so outside the area.
I'd appreciate link/s to the FS wills/Inventory records please. I've been searching some of them but it's a long haul. Is there an easy way of locating records without checking 1000's individually? Can't be greedy though but an index would be wonderful - I'm just grateful that the records are even there.
Thanks again for your help
Di
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Hello again,
I use Norfolk Records Office Wills search. (Nrocat)
Results give you the relevant Archdeaconry and a reference number.
Then go to the Family Search site, find the Archdeaconry and date, and try to find the page!
John Slark's will was indexed on the Nrocat site as "Slack"
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSND-R92X-C?i=360&cat=504379
I was intrigued that John was a painter.
The inventory shows he was a picture painter. Quite prolific too, judging by the number of his pictures appearing on the inventory.
It also mentions his sons, including Robert - and a tantalizing list of names to research
Goes on for quite a few pages.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XCZ7-Z38?i=1293&cat=625371
Finally, the St Gregory's parish chest records, showing John as a Churchwarden.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6XGQ-81Y?i=239&cat=970031
Enjoy reading .... I did!
Yorkslass
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Thanks ever so much. What a wonderful discovery.
All those are a great bonus and the will & inventory give a great insight into John & his family. I had John as a House Painter - the thought that he may have painted pictures hadn't occurred to me.
I truly appreciate all your help
Thanks again
Di
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A desperate suggestion...
Also a bit early, and at St Sepulchre, down in London
5 November 1744
Robert Clark + Phillis Constable
It does seem to say Clark.
I mention it because the only possibility I can find for the bride (presuming she wasn't a widow) is a baptism at St Michael Coslany, Norwich, 21st April 1723
Phillis, daughter of Charles Constable & Phillis his wife born April ye 17th
Not sure what happened to her parents. Again, the only marriage possibility I've come up with is in London, 18 Feb 1710, at the Fleet, Charles Constable + Phillis Rain. Neither are said to be of Norfolk. At least Phillis does not seem to have been a particularly common name at the time.
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Several children on FreeREG for Charles/Phillis in Norwich 1712-1723
Burial of a MARY 21 May 1728, Daug of Charles.
She doesnt seem to be Bapt Norfolk
Charles may have been buried * Dec 1736, no age given, married man
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A desperate suggestion...
Also a bit early, and at St Sepulchre, down in London
5 November 1744
Robert Clark + Phillis Constable
It does seem to say Clark.
I mention it because the only possibility I can find for the bride (presuming she wasn't a widow) is a baptism at St Michael Coslany, Norwich, 21st April 1723
Phillis, daughter of Charles Constable & Phillis his wife born April ye 17th
Not sure what happened to her parents. Again, the only marriage possibility I've come up with is in London, 18 Feb 1710, at the Fleet, Charles Constable + Phillis Rain. Neither are said to be of Norfolk. At least Phillis does not seem to have been a particularly common name at the time.
Thanks for this idea - it felt like I'd checked nearly every Phillis in UK (slight exaggeration!!) and couldn't seem to pinpoint any one in particular but this is interesting as it's one of the few or only Phillis married to a *ark*.
I have Robert Bp in 1722 and if Phillis was born 1723 a marriage in 1744 would fit rather nicely.
I'll see if there's anything further re Charles Constable somewhere in Norfolk. I wonder if there's a will?
Thanks jonw75 & Trish for your help & great ideas and new direction
Di
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Deleted, info already given :-[
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I thought this might be of interest in case someone else has extra information or has a connection to this family ..
The 1710 Fleet marriage for Charles Constable & Phillis Rain states that he was a periwigmaker.
In Norfolk in 1713 a Charles Constable takes an apprentice (Joseph Freezer?) as a Barber & Periwigmaker
In Norfolk 1712 - 1730 Charles & Phillis Constable's children, all Bp at St Michael Coslany.
Norfolk: Charles Constable (married man) buried 1736 St Michael Coslany
Norfolk: Phillis Constable - widow - buried 1756 St Michael Coslany
Obviously there could be 2 men named Charles Constable who were Periwigmakers but the coincidence was worth checking.
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Gosh I had looked at that occp for ages and couldnt work it out, well done :)
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I wasn't that good Trish ;D
- once I saw the occupation on the apprenticeship record I rechecked the marriage and then it made sense 8)