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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: siouxie on Friday 19 August 05 08:01 BST (UK)
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I am interested in the family of Arthur Henry Bull and Elizabeth Mary (nee Pound) wo lived on the Isle of Wight maybe at Bonavista Terrace. I have seen the 1901 entry with their children Cromwell, Cecil and Crystal. Cromwell later had a poetry book published and i know that Crystal had at least one child and was in London during WW2.
Any more information gratefully received
Sue x
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Hello Sue,
looking on the IOWFHS site an Arthur Henry Bull was born in 1865, then after looking on the 1881 census his parents were Barnabus Bull and Fanny Lock, I am researching Lock and may be able to locate the Fanny Lock further,let me know. Regards I.O.W
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Thank you ...i'd be very interested in anything you could tell me. There has been someone on Genes Reunited who has connections with cromwell bull but he has not rsponded to me. keep in touch sue
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Hello again Sue, I have gathered together what I have on these at present, they are are not a direct line to mine but may be a distant branch further back, regards IOW.
1881 census living Newport Road Ventnor.
Barnabas Bull b.1842 Rookley Tailor
Fanny Bull b. 1842 Shanklin Laundress
Arthur Bull b.1865 Ventnor Errand Boy
Ada Jane Bull b.1868 Ventnor Scholar
Minnie Bull b.1873 Ventnor
Mark Bull b. 1877 Ventnor
William Bull b.1875
By using a bit of deduction and the IOWFHS BMD Barnabas Bull and Fanny Lock had the following children
Elizabeth Alice Bull 1864 (1881 living with Thomas and Elizabeth Mitchell described as neice)
Arthur Henry Bull 1865
Ellen Bull 1867( Death of Ellen Bull age 10 days in 1867)
Ada Jane Bull 1868
Mary Jane Bull 1870
Minnie Bull 1873
William Bull 1875
Albert Bull 1877 (is this the Mark )
Austin Edward Bull 1879(died age 5 months)
George Bull 1881
A Barnabas Bull age 8 born Carisbrooke was in the House of Industry in the 1851 census, no marriage found as yet for Barnabus and Fanny, there was a Barnabas Bull born 1842 on the island with siblings William Bull born 1840 and Maria Bull born 1844, parents not known as yet.
Fanny Lock gives her birthplace as Shanklin 1842, there are two possible , one the daughter of James Lock and Jane Lowe or William and Elizabeth King.
William Lock married Elizabeth King 1840, in the 1841 census there was a William Lock age 25 born Shanklin with wife Elizabeth 25.
They had the following children
Fanny Lock 1841
William Lock1842
Elizabeth Lock 1845
Mary Jane Lock 1847
There is a death of William Lock in 1848 age 34 and Elizabeth was a widow by the 1851 census, also listed with the other children was Emma Lock , she was an infant.
I have been able to work out that Emma Jane Mitchell born 1850 was the daughter of Elizabeth Lock nee King and Thomas Mitchell who she married in 1851,
They also had the following children.
Harriet Mitchell 1851
Robert Mitchell 1853
William John Mitchell 1855
George Mitchell 1858
Edith Mitchell 1859
Flora Mitchell 1861
Leah Mitchell 1865
If Elizabeth King/Lock/Mitchell was the aunt of Elizabeth Bull (1864) it means that James Lock and Jane Lowe were the parents of the Fanny Lock and that William and James Lock were brothers, this places them as being the sons of Maurice Lock and Ann White especially with the Shanklin connection.William Lock was born 1815 Whitwell and James was born 1820 Whitwell.
Of course you will need to check this further but I feel this is correct.
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Wondferful! Thank you for all your time xxx
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I have just realised it cannot be James Lock and Jane Lowe, but you have the births of the others so perhaps you may find more yourself. Regards IOW.
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Thank you for your time ...I am still pursuing the Bulls most. Have just found Crystal Bull marrying William C Fergusson on the isle of Wight in 1926. Cheers
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I can assist with ancestors of Arthur Henry Bull.
Contact me at Moderator comment: e-mail address removed to prevent spamming. Please use the personal message facility to exchange e-mail addresses. Thank you!
russharr
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Hi have replied to you with a personal message
Sue stott
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Hello, my name is Dennis Robert Bull aged 60, I am the son of the late Kenneth Cromwell Bull who was the son of Cromwell Bull - Kenneth met Suzanne Depiere in Belgium during WW2 and they married and settled near Dartford (Barnehurst) in Kent - Cromwell had previously moved to that area with his wife Lily (buried here in Crayford - where I now live) My late brother, Donald, was born in 1947 - I was born in 1954.
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Hello Dennis
I've been all fingers and thumbs trying to log into rootsweb because I was SO excited to get this notification!
My mum had a volume of Cromwell Bull's poetry (of which I have a copy). Cromwell was one of my mum's first cousins, but much older than her. In fact your dad Kenneth was born the same year as my mum!
Mum died in 2011 -I am very sorry that she couldn't know that you had been in contact.
I am trying to figure out how to send you a personal message -will do as soon as I have worked it out! Sue xx
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Dennis,
Welcome to rootschat.
Could you remove a bit of the personal information and your email address, as it is very easy, using the internet, to find your address and lots of other information about you and your family?
(I think rootschat does not like living people being discussed, so information on children/grandchildren you had best keep for private correspondence)
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Hi Sue, I don't really know my way round this site yet - you are welcome to email me - I would love to see my grandad's book of poetry sometime. My dad Kenneth passed away aged just 64 in 1980.