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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: mareanna on Tuesday 15 October 19 17:24 BST (UK)
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I’m trying to find the family of these two going back, especially their births/baptisms and whether they are siblings. I have Hannah’s marriage to John Stevens and her family from there. I don’t have anything for William except for censuses and his daughter Matilda, her marriage and family afterwards. William was buried in 1869 but doesn’t appear to have left a will. There is an 1837 marriage for a William Butt, widower, in Derby, but ruled it out as that one is a stockinger, not a farmer
I can’t find any Sandiacre records online, in addition to the two baptisms, I’m looking for William’s marriage and whether Matilda had any siblings.
Does anyone know where I can go from here?
The family is distantly related to Robert Posnett Smith AKA Robert Postnett Stevens, well-known local cricketer and his uncle Joseph Stevens, whose will of over £100,000 in 1885 appears to require Robert to change his surname to benefit
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Hi
Can't help much but the 1861 census for William Butt states his 'condition' as Un(married)
Also Matilda is given a birthyear of c1815 in the census - this would make William a bit too young to be married and having children given his birthyear of 1800/1 , the 1841 census doesn't state relationships either. Possibly William Butt, farmer in the census, is Matilda's brother and their father was a William Butt, given that is the fathers name in Matildas marriage record ?
I can't find any baptisms either :-\
Claire
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Derby Mercury
Wednesday 19th March 1835
Marriage - On Tuesday se’nnight, at Shelford, Nottinghamshire, Mr Thomas Butt, son of Mr Butt of Sandiacre, in this county, to Miss Walker, daughter of Mr Walker of Newton.
Derby Mercury
Wednesday 2nd March 1836
Death – On Wednesday morning last, at Sandiacre in this county, Mr William Butt sen. farmer and grazier
Derby Mercury
Wednesday 4th March 1840
Death - On Monday night last, at Sandiacre, after a very long illness, Ruth Elizabeth Bird, second daughter of the late Mr and Mrs Butt
Derbyshire Courier
Saturday 18th June 1842
Marriage – On Tuesday the 14th, at Risley, on the county of Derby, Francis Robinson Esq of Hough-on-the-hill, Lincolnshire, to Matilda, youngest daughter of the late Mt Butt of Sandiacre.
Burial Records Sandiacre
29th February 1836 William Butt of Sandiacre aged 66
29th November 1838 Elizabeth Butt of Sandiacre aged 62
7th March 1840 Ruth Elizabeth Bird Butt of Sandiacre aged 42
18th March 1869 William Butt of Sandiacre aged 68
A William Butt and Elizabeth Bird married 28th August 1791 Rolleston, Notts
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Hello. It is mysterious! Do you think William was in Aslockton or Chesterfield in 1861?
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Mareanna
Do you have access to Findmypast, often you can get access via your local library.
If so you need to look at the wills of William Butt Snr., who died in 1836 and his wife Elizabeth who died 1837 ( note her full will is listed under Elizabeth Butterton, transcribed incorrectly by FindMyPast)
Both wills state that William Butt and Matilda Butt are their children. William was a Trustee of his Fathers Will, so assume this is why he is looking after Matilda 1841 Census. Wills name other children and their spouses.
Spendlove
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Original info from Dave Jones;
I have added more info
A William Butt and Elizabeth Bird married 28th August 1791 Rolleston, Notts
(FreeREG has entry, William of Sandyacre co Derby and Elizabeth of Fiskerton)
29th November 1838 Elizabeth Butt of Sandiacre aged 62
(birth c 1776)
Baptism;
5 Jun 1774, Holy Trinity, Rolleston, Notts
ELIZABETH, Daug of JOHN/RUTH Bird
Sibling THOMAS 19 May 1773
EDIT Anc has Thomas dying 21 May 1773
Burial of RUTH Bird 12 Jul 1804 and JOHN Bird 18 Jan 1804 Rolleston, no ages given
All on FreeREG
Trish :)