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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Midlothian => Topic started by: EileenBlacklock on Saturday 12 October 19 11:22 BST (UK)
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Been given an impossible task but hope someone can help me.
A friend has asked me to help with a family tree but knows nothing about his father's origins other than his name is Ernest Graham who was born about 1934 and lived in Fountainbridge, Edinburgh and assumed he was born there. We know he was one of seven children and one of the brothers had the name Malise (Not sure how it was spelt but sounded like Malice).
He married Violet Margaret Rose Smart in Plymouth, Devon in 1961 and died in Truro in Cornwall in 2018.
I would be grateful if someone could tell me where I might look next to find his ancestors. I looked at Scotland's people but just got confused.
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A good starting point if you think they were Scottish is :https//www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ (http://:https//www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/)
You will need to create an account. You can then search for free. If you want to view images then you will need to buy credits.
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I did register with Scotland's people and it threw up a few with that name but it seems I have to pay to see more about them but what would I see? Not sure what information is on them so I guess I would have to pay to see them all. My problem is, even if it had their mother's maiden name etc, how would I know if it the one I am looking for as I know nothing about them except they were one of seven children?
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You should always start with what you know. ;D . Do you have his marriage certificate as that could name his father
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No I haven't but I could send off for it, good idea, many thanks
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As Craclyn has mentioned www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk is the only site to try
There are 2 births on Scotlands People
Ernest Graham 1933 Haymarket
Ernest Graham 1935 St Giles both in the Edinburgh District
Unfortunately these certificates would need to be ordered
Does his marriage certificate mention a fathers name
Rosie
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If his wife is still living you should remove her name from your post
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I will send off for the marriage certificate, it will have his father's name on it I am sure so I can work from there but let's just hope his father has an unusual name or I will be spending a fortune looking at people and not knowing if they fit in or not. It is so much easier looking at the records outside of Scotland where you can see immediately who their brothers and sisters are, occupations etc. I think this may prove a bit of a nightmare as it seems to be all guesswork and no way of knowing if you guessed right
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Both of them have died, she died many years ago
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If you get the marriage certificate come back on this post with the details and we will see if we can help. Your friend or one of their family may have it somewhere
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None of them have his marriage cert, I asked them. I will order it right away and definitely come back on here with the details. Thank you so much :)
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You could also check newspapers for an obituary
Uk Ireland obituary notice
Ernest Graham Jock
Birth 1934
Death date 6 May 2018
Residence place Truro
Mentions names of children so might be worth checking out to see if parent's names are mentioned
Rosie
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An online tree has an Ernest Graham b.5/2/1935 Edinburgh died 16/2/2005 Edinburgh which could account for the 1935 birth on SP which would just leave the 1933 birth entry as a possibility.
Annette
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Thanks, it looks as though the 1933 one is the correct one then. Well spotted
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As you say, you need something to confirm you have the correct info for him. His marriage with details on his father is certainly the place to start. His death cert should also include place of birth and birth date.
Luckily, the name Ernest Graham is not that common in Scotland!
Monica
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I now have his marriage certificate and his father was William Graham, was deceased by 1961 and had been a tailor's clerk . Any help appreciated
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Now that you have confirmed father's name, next step would be to order that 1933 birth that was discussed before. You now have some details to compare with Ernest's father's name.
You mentioned a brother with a name sounding like Malice. Could the name have been Magnus? There is a birth for someone with this name in 1930 in South Leith and a marriage in Haymarket in 1958.
Monica
Added: The father of this Magnus in a Robert Graham so not the right one.
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Could Ernest and wife Violet have called a daughter after his mother (thinking of Scottish naming pattern). This might help in searches for marriages for a William Graham around that time.
Best bet is that 1933 birth for sure though ;)
Monica