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My 3 x great grandfather Thomas Howard b.1808 my information tells me that he was married to Sarah b.1800 d.1855 (born Dennis). He was a wheelwright and postmaster and lived in Insworth Essex. He died in 1886.
My query is that I am trying to find information on his father and mother, all I know is that his father was also Thomas b.1788 and his mother was Elizabeth b.1790. I keep hitting a brick wall so I am hoping that someone on here might be able throw some light on this couple for me. Thanking you in advance.
ausmaz1
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I note that there are various online trees stating his parents were a Thomas and Elizabeth - however, when he married his second wife Ann Hull in 1856 his father was not a Thomas!
Thomas Gooding Howard, widower, Wheelwright, son of John Howard, Wheelwright
Ann Hull, spinster, dau. of James Hull, Labourer
married 28/9/1856 St. George Hanover Square, Middlesex (London).
In 1851 at Minster in Sheppey, Kent
John Howard 70 Wheelwright born Marks Tey, Essex
Mary Howard wife 53 born Sheerness, Kent
George Howard 24 ditto
William Howard 17 ditto
John Howard 14 ditto
Looks like Mary must have been a second wife as only born ca.1798.
Unfortunately, I cannot find online baptisms for Minster, Isle of Sheppey/Sheerness for the relevant time frame so don't know who John Howard's first wife was.
Annette
Don't believe all you see on online trees and always checkout the facts. Since I saw that Thomas remarried in 1856 I checked the marriage certificate (found on FindMyPast) which clearly shows his father as John, also a Wheelwright who was living in Minster in Sheppey in 1841 and 1851 (died 1853).
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hi Annette, thank you so much for this information and the time you took to find it. I will follow up on it.
Ausmaz1
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Great find!
Just in case
John Howard bapt indep chapel Coggeshall 14 June 1782 born 12 Oct 1781
s of John and Sarah of Marks Tey
Sarah Dec 1778, William 3.10.1783 and Jane May 1787.
Ciderdrinker
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On the 1841 Census, Essex, Inworth
Thos HOWARD - 31 ? Wheelwright - all born in County
Sarah - 40
Thos - 11
Mary Ann 9
Frances Jane - 6
Charlotte 4
Sophia 1 ***
Sarah APPLETON - aged 15
Checking with the GRO Indez
HOWARD, Sophia - Mother's Maiden Surname: APPLETON
Checking with BMD - Witham is Essex District and includes Inworth
and
HOWARD John William aged 8 on the 1851 census
Mother's Maiden Surname also APPLETON
GRO Reference: 1842 D Quarter in WITHAM Volume 12 Page 285
GRO Reference: 1840 - J Quarter in WITHAM - Volume 12 Page 296
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Ancestry
Marriage at Insworth, All Saints Essex - 17 March 1830
Thomas Gooding HOWARD / Sarah APPLETON
There are other APPLETON marriages at Insworth - and include
James APPLETON to Sarah DENNIS - 31 October 1820
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Thank you so much, I really appreciate your help.
Ausmaz1
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1841 Census
Minster, Kent
John Howend, 55, Wheelwright
Mary Howend, 40
Sarah Howend, 15
George Howend, 15
Harriott Howend, 10
Emma Howend, 9
William Howend, 6
John Howend, 4
All born in Kent except John**
Possible Burial;
MARY Howard 23 Sep 1859, Halfway Cemetery, Sheerness
Age 63, abode Hope St
GRO Death Reg;
HOWARD, JOHN age 72
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in THE SHEPPEY UNION Volume 02A Page 394
Given the gap in childrens ages John possibly remarried after George was born.
Trish :)
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Thank you Trish.