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Title: 1796 born Kirkden Parish -David Foord
Post by: jkhansen on Sunday 06 October 19 14:41 BST (UK)
Just to be for sure a couple of words - it is written from a 1796 birth record (attached) from the parish of Kirkden, (Forfarshire, Angus)

Last entry:
April 23rd David Ford in Gask ... .. (had a)?
Natural Son Baptised David                   
David Foord

Question - is it a normal thing to right 'natural son'? I am having a problem finding more details about the mother!
Thanks in advance for help
JKH


Title: Re: 1796 born Kirkden Parish -David Foord
Post by: emeltom on Sunday 06 October 19 16:03 BST (UK)
David Ford in Gask had a natural son baptised.


Could well be that the child was illegitimate. Perhaps the mother had died in childbirth and the father was taking responsibility.

Emeltom
Title: Re: 1796 born Kirkden Parish -David Foord
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 06 October 19 16:47 BST (UK)
As there's only one other entry visible (signed by the mother), can you check the ones above/below as I think it may only be the father named on them but either parent signed?

Edit..."is it a normal thing to right 'natural son'?"

Indeed although other terms are were used too.

Annie
Title: Re: 1796 born Kirkden Parish -David Foord
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 06 October 19 16:59 BST (UK)
Have you changed your attachment?

If David died in Scotland post 1854 both parents should be named on his DC if known to the informant.

Annie
Title: Re: 1796 born Kirkden Parish -David Foord
Post by: GR2 on Sunday 06 October 19 22:59 BST (UK)
It is not unusual for mothers not to be mentioned in baptism registers. These are not signed - the name at the side is the child's name as an aid to finding. The spelling of the surname would now be Ford. In the North East of Scotland this was pronounced Foord or Fyoord, hence the variant in the register.

As the child is illegitimate, you should look in the minutes of the kirk session (if they are extant for that period) as the mother's name will likely be found there.
Title: Re: 1796 born Kirkden Parish -David Foord
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 07 October 19 00:39 BST (UK)
As the child is illegitimate, you should look in the minutes of the kirk session (if they are extant for that period) as the mother's name will likely be found there.

If you're unable to do this yourself, you may be interested in this service (reasonably priced)

https://www.oldscottish.com/kirkden.html

Annie
Title: Re: 1796 born Kirkden Parish -David Foord
Post by: Wolseley on Monday 07 October 19 09:44 BST (UK)
Natural son (or daughter) in Scottish parish registers means that the child was illegitimate.

Also, one line of my ancestors lived in Kirkden and, from what I have seen of the Kirkden parish registers, the mothers were not mentioned in baptismal records until the early 1800s.