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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Monaghan => Topic started by: beseeinyou on Wednesday 02 October 19 21:46 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I have an ancestor who seems to have been born in Monaghan in 1847, is there any way you can look up / see a birth record from that date?
Beseeinyou
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Birth registration only came to Ireland in 1864 so you need to find a baptism. You need their religion and an idea of where in Monaghan they were born.
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Hi, If you say his name I could search for you.
Maggsie
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Hi Maggsie,
That is very kind of you as I'm a bit lost with it.
I'm sure he would undoubtedly be Catholic.
His name is Edward Mohan / Moan and what I have is that he was married to Catherine McAree in Urbleshanny, Scotstown, Monaghan in 1889 when he was aged 42, so his birth date would be around 1847.
His residence on the wedding certificate is given as Tydavnet, Monaghan.
At some point they moved to Glasgow, Scotland where he died in 1912.
Regards
Beseeinyou
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RC Registers are online
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0319 Tydavnet
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Hi,
I was out this afternoon.
I searched a site to see if I could find him by name, no results.
I went to the Registers on line...……..Monaghan
1846, 1847 to March 1848.
The only Mohan I found was this, did he have a sister called Frances or a brother Francis?
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632895#page/53/mode/1up
Going by the Civil Marriage record his father was Edward and at the time of the marriage 1889 he was still alive.
I searched for any Mohan with the father named as Edward, couldn't find any in the area.
I will searched 1845 tomorrow, ok
Maggsie
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I think I can see the Mohan in that link though I'm not too good at reading it, can you help me understand it?
The far left is the date (10th of something?)
The person being baptised is in the left column?, is that a town name underneath their name?
The middle column is the parents names?, though I don't think it looks like Edward & Catherine I don't know what those names are?
The right hand column is ?
Thanks for all your help.
Beseeinyou
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Hi, yes, very hard to read.
As I said this was the only Mohan I could find.
I looked at it again.
April 10th 1848 (the April is a squiggle above and 1848 is at the top of the page.)
Father Jacobus and Mother Maria
Sponsors translates as William and Teresa can not read the surname.
The place underneath Edward is Slacksgrove.
Now I just searched for that and got this...…
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=269447.0
Then this...……………
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Mohan+family+in+slacksgrove+ireland+&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=mohan+family+in+slacksgrove+&sc=0-28&sk=&cvid=64FB5331CEC546A18B30577FCAC7C195
Maggsie
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Civil Reg Death results for moan of Monaghan from 1887 to 1915
Link http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ogl/
There is a possible for Father, Edward ( PDF attached ) but not sufficient details to ID him.
You could try looking at females "of correct age group" to see who registered them.... maybe Son edward or Daughter in Law Catherine??
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With regard to these Catholic Registers am I right in thinking that these cannot be searched by name?, and that you have to just scroll through the microfiche pages that are there?
The county of Monaghan is split into a bunch of areas (please excuse my ignorance of the correct terminology) and that although my relative was residing in Tydavnet when he got married it could be that 42 years earlier when he was born he could be in another area and it's just a case of trawling through these registers? Or is there a better way of finding information?
Also what's your take on how the baptism date relates to the date of birth ?
Beseeinyou
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Yes it is true he could have been born anywhere... Cork, England, America etc..
One only knows where he was when he married!
For you....one can only search/investigate on available information at time of Marriage!