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I've had this brickwall for years and just decided to have another crack at it but I don't have much to go on, so a fresh pair of eyes but be appreciated.
My 2x gt grandfather was William Robinson born in 1812 to James Robinson & Ann.
William married 3 times, I'm not sure who is 1st wife was but he married my 2 x gt grandmother,
Elizabeth Simpson in 1846 at St John the baptist. On this marriage certificate it states his father
James was a Gardiner. William married again at the grand old age of 76 and on that certificate
states his father was James, a dissenting minister. I can only tract one surviving sibling for William and that was Selina born 1810 and she married James Clarke in 1840 and father was given as James who was a Hawker. So I only have 3 clues about James Robinson. In 1840 he was a Hawker and in 1846 was a gardener and at some stage in his life was a dissenting Minister.
Any suggestion would be great.
Thanks
Carol
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Could you please give details of William on 1851 census
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My 2x gt grandfather was William Robinson born in 1812 to James Robinson & Ann.
William married 3 times, I'm not sure who is 1st wife was but he married my 2 x gt grandmother,
Elizabeth Simpson in 1846 at St John the baptist.
Where did this 1846 marriage take place? Which town?
Pheno
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1851 Broadmarsh
Wm Robinson 38 Bricklayer
Elizabeth 52 wife
George 14 Bricklayer lab
Eliza 12 silk wider
Jacob 6
Elizabeth Robinson 26 visitor born Alfreton
Sarah Burton 22 vistor
George Burto 1 month
Carol
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All marriages took place in Nottingham.
Carol
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My 2x gt grandfather was William Robinson born in 1812 to James Robinson & Ann.
William married 3 times, I'm not sure who is 1st wife was but he married my 2 x gt grandmother,
Elizabeth Simpson in 1846 at St John the baptist.
Where did this 1846 marriage take place? Which town?
Pheno
I could not find it on freebmd, I now see there is a reference number problem so it was not matching ;D
William Robinson
Elizabeth Simpson
Marriage 12 Oct 1846
St John, Nottingham
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I suspect you'll have these details, Sunfower, but in the spirit of completeness:
is this James' and Ann's marriage:
1803 03 20 James ROBINSON and Ann DIXON @NOTTINGHAM St Mary
However there is another James/Ann marriage:
1807 03 07 James ROBINSON and Ann Arabella FERGUSON @ NOTTINGHAM St Mary
To James and Ann were baptised the following children, all at St Mary's:
1804 02 07 Ann
1806 04 17 James
1808 12 31 Henry
1810 11 02 Selina
1811 12 13 Edmund
1812 12 07 William
then between 1813 - 1829 there are several more children, and for these the father's occ is given, as well as the address:
1813 01 07 Mary Victualler Butchers Close
1814 06 25 Thomas Brick Maker Butchers Close
1819 08 11 Daniel Wharfinger Butcher's Close
1827 06 08 George Wharfinger Butchers Close
1829 03 15 John Labourer Poynton St
To potentially add to the confusion, the mother's name is given as Ann Arabella for other baptisms, so that clearly delineates that these children belong to the second marriage above, but ofcourse others could also belong if the Arabella wasn't always added!
James and Ann Arabella's children:
1811 06 08 James
1816 12 02 Daniel Wharfinger Brewer St
1818 05 17 Martha Wharfinger Butcher St
1821 01 16 George Thomas Wharfinger Wharf St
1822 04 07 Ann Wharfinger Wharf St
and probably:
1815 10 05 Arabella Warfinger Brewer St (mother's name just Arabella). Clearly with the addresses and paternal occupation, there's overlap with the second list of children above.
There's another James/Ann marriage during thse years:
1827 08 07 James William ROBINSON and Ann SAVAGE @ NOTTINGHAM St Nicholas
so I wonder if John, b 1829, belongs to this couple with the address and occ being different.
There's also some deaths which may be to one of these families:
1807 02 08 Millicent ROBINSON Dau of James
1812 09 23 Henry ROBINSON Son of James
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The 1841 census in Nottingham has a JamesRobinson age55, cola merchant, living on Wharf St with a son called JamesJnr (allegedly age 25) -- so with the address and occupation, I imagine that this is Arabella's family.
burial at St Mary:
1840 02 11 Ann Arrabella ROBINSON age 53 abode Skinner St
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Sunflower, how sure can you be that your William was the s/o James and Ann?
ON the FHS disc there are 2 Williams baptised at St Mary around the same time, father James:
1812 12 07 William - parents James ROBINSON and Ann (as above)
1814 10 03 William - parents James ROBINSON and Elisabeth; this James was a Shop Keeper,of Barker Gate.
I know that doesn't fit with the occupations you have, but I can't see any James Robinson as a gardener or as a minister.
Have you looked at any non-con records, if James was a dissenting minister?
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Hi Annie
Thanks very much for information. It's always good to have confirmation.
I am sure that William was the son of James and Ann. Selina his sister was mentioned in the will of Williams son, George, dated 1888.
I haven't looked at any Non-con records yet as I couldn't find much on line for Nottinghamshire
Thanks
Carol
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Sorry can't help