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Hi. I am trying to find my Gt Granddad Michael Dougan on Manchester Census but to no avail prior to 1891. He was born in 1849 or thereabouts. He appears in the 1891 census married to Annie and with several children and living at 27 Dickens Street Manchester. I know that for several years he had a Hairdressers in Dale Street Manchester 1879 - 1886 so must have been living in Manchester throughout those years but I can find no trace of him before t 1891. He married in 1886 his wife being Ann McGuinness . The marriage certificate states that his father was also Michael Dougan. Can anyone come up with any suggestions? I have just hit a blank wall.
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1891 - RG12/3246 folio 23, page 39
Slight change of occupation - Glass Dresser :-\
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He was a glass dresser and then a Barber. And then he must have gone upmarket a little. On his death certificate he was shown to be a master Hairdresser. In the Slater Directory for Manchester it shows him as having a shop in Dales Street.
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Apologies - you already had the 1891 :-[
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Could he be down as Duggan?
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Apologies - you already had the 1891 :-[
But the address given was wrong, the family are at 3 Cohen street, Manchester.
Do you have his marriage to Annie as that should give details of his father. Sorry I see you have the certificate could you post the details on his father Michael and the witnesses
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Red herring - deleted
Philip
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MODIFIED - This Michael Duggan appears on the 1891 Census (FamilySearch) RG12 208/59 p48 in Bloomsbury with brother Owen and widowed mother Bridget so it isn't the man you want. :'( :'( :'(
Possibly:
1881 (FamilySearch) RG11/192/38 p26 St Pancras
Michael DUGGAN, head, 60, Bottle merchant, born Ireland
Bridget, wife, 55, born Ireland
Owen, son, 30, Bottle merchant, born Middlesex
Michael, son, 27, Bottle merchant, born Middlesex
1871 (FamilySearch) GBC/1871/0344/0019 St Giles, Middlesex
Michael DUGGAN, head, 52, Bottle merchant, born Limerick Ireland
Bridget, wife, 48, Sack sewing, born Limerick Ireland
Owen, son, 20, Porter, born Bloomsbury Middlesex
Michael, son, 17, Porter, born Bloomsbury Middlesex
John, son, 14, Errand Boy, born Bloomsbury, Middlesex
1861(FamilySearch) RG09 383/35 p16 Rotherhithe, Surrey
Michael DUGGAN, head, 47, Corn & tambear labourer, born Ireland
Bridget, wife, 45, born Ireland
Mary, daughter, 17, Sack sewing, born Ireland
Michael, son, 10, Scholar, born Rotherhithe Surrey
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He was born in Manchester and lived all his life in Manchester. Several addresses. 1891 3 Cohen Street, 1901 Dickens Street, 1907 he died at what was probably his home address of 26 Werneth Street. I have looked through the names of Dugguns and other names that could have been mistaken for Dougan. Thanks for all the interest so far. The Slater directory for Manchester show he had a Hairdressers shop at 43 Dale Street Manchester from 1879 to 86 though was also living at 8 Butler Street. I have no idea why they moved around so much.
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He was born in Manchester and lived all his life in Manchester. Several addresses. 1891 3 Cohen Street, 1901 Dickens Street, 1907 he died at what was probably his home address of 26 Werneth Street. I have looked through the names of Dugguns and other names that could have been mistaken for Dougan. Thanks for all the interest so far. The Slater directory for Manchester show he had a Hairdressers shop at 43 Dale Street Manchester from 1879 to 86 though was also living at 8 Butler Street. I have no idea why they moved around so much.
Two questions:
What is the evidence for him being born in Manchester? (Birth? Baptism?)
Does the marriage cert give his father's occupation?
Philip
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There is a 1851 census on family search with a Michael Duggan born 1849 with father Thomas and mother Eleanor...This is Manchester..
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One to consider
1881 4025/17/28
45 Garnett Street
Amy Daly widow 62 yrs b Ireland
Timothy Daly son 26 yrs hairdresser
Michael Derrigan son 32 yrs hairdresser
John Dougan son 36 yrs
Sons born Manchester
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He was born in Manchester and lived all his life in Manchester. Several addresses.
1891 3 Cohen Street,
1901 Dickens Street,
1907 he died at what was probably his home address of 26 Werneth Street.
I have looked through the names of Dugguns and other names that could have been mistaken for Dougan. Thanks for all the interest so far.
The Slater directory for Manchester show he had a Hairdressers shop at 43 Dale Street Manchester from 1879 to 86 though was also living at 8 Butler Street.
I have no idea why they moved around so much.
Does the marriage cert give his father's occupation?
There's this birth entry
Michael DOUGAN mmn ARCHER
1853 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 216
There's this marriage
Sep 1848 Manchester 20 433
Eliza Alexander
Male name on same page
Michael Dougan
Married 16th July 1848 Manchester
Michael DOUGAN 21 occ Slater, 85 Angel Street, father John, Sawyer
Eliza ALEXANDER 20, 5 Ludgate Street father John labourer
Both made their mark (x) as did witness John Leatherbarrow
other witness Ellen Draynes?
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That looks possible Ladyhawk.
I wonder what the father’s occupation was and who were the witnesses at the marriage?
The one I mentioned earlier is possibly at Back Style Street in 1851 2230/ 447/49
Ann Dugan with sons Michael 4yrs and John 8 yrs.
This would make Michael's age wrong though in later records.
Ann marries Michael Daly in 1851.
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"No idea why they moved around so much" - possibly that they only rented the accommodation. Most people at this time did not own the property - they were tenants.
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Not finding Michael & Eliza Dougan on 1851 census
there is this
Michael Dougan Age: 19 (c1828), Larceny
Date of Trial: 28 Jun 1847
Location of Trial: Lancashire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment, 3 months
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
there is this 1851 census surname DOGAN in Manchester
but all born Ireland, Michael Snr 40, engine Tenter wife Alice, Michael Jnr. 4
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGYJ-KL6
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Just found this 1851 census entry as a possibility for Michael & Eliza Dougan
HO107; Piece: 2230; Folio: 375A; Page: 29
Old Mount Street Manchester
Michael Dougan lodger mar. 22 born Nottingham occ Bk, lay, lab.
Eliza Dougan lodger mar. 26 born Ireland occ. ?
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Did someone mention a Gannett Street. If so, can you give me the information again. This may be the person I am looking for. I have the marriage certificate and it gives his father's occupation as Joiner. I cannot read the names of the witnesses but it does look like W McCarthy and Daisy Harriett.Thank you everyone for your help. HAVE FOUND THE GARNET STREET DETAILS. SO NO NEED TO SEND AGAIN. MANY THANKS. Thought I could link the family in Garnet street up with the family I'm looking for but so far have been unable to. So back to the drawing board.
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Some of the other links are of interest it could be that some of them tie in together. I will follow them up. Many thanks.
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One to consider
1881 4025/17/28
45 Garnett Street
Amy Daly widow 62 yrs b Ireland
Timothy Daly son 26 yrs hairdresser
Michael Derrigan son 32 yrs hairdresser
John Dougan son 36 yrs
Sons born Manchester
This is the Garnett Street post again.
Is it significant?
It would be nice to know as the occupation fits.
If you read the other posts, I have mentioned the family in earlier census and mother’s marriage.
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It does link somewhere. Ann McGuinness the wife of Michael Dougan my great grandfather lived at 19 Garnet street. This was given as her address on the marriage certificate in 1886 but so far I cannot link the information to 45 Garnet street. But I am going to look further into it...there is a link somewhere. Many thanks for your help.