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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: Nugil on Friday 13 September 19 17:51 BST (UK)
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Hello - I'm trying to find if 2 particular Campbell families were related.
One is Patrick, with a wife, Mary - 1911 Irish Census shows them with their children living in Tandragee.
The other person is James Campbell whose wife was a Lizzie Nugent. They are also showing in the 1911 Census.
I think James's parents were John and his wife, Mary McFarland.
Possibly Patrick's parents were John and his wife Mary McCarland.
I'm wondering if there was a spelling error and these are the same parents to Patrick and James making them brothers?
Many thanks for any help.
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Armed with the details from 1911 census...Year Married
you can figure out year they married and search for Marriage Registrations for them allowing a year or so each way and enter them in Year ranges
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp is the website, Certs etc are Free, just fill in the following as per attachment plus years ...hit Search where you will be asked to solve Captcha and then just use initials and sign in
All part of Irish Gov website......
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
or just use Surname you might get other siblings etc
or tick Deaths to look for Parent's death etc
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I'll give that a go, thank you
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I think they are both wrong. Her name was McParland.
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You are very welcome!
If there are children named on Census 1911 or 1901 you can adjust search accordingly, tick Births etc
It is quite user friendly...... ;D
SOME with Page Numbers don't have Images yet but once knows how to use site one can check back 2 or 3 times a Year to see if updated records have become available or not.
Birth Reg include mother's maiden name so look for that to ensure you get Siblings
Good hunting!
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Hi, what makes you think Patrick's/James's mother's name could be McParland, please?
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Familysearch for Irish births in Armagh
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Any info I could receive to solve my little puzzle would be greatly appreciated.
If I can tie up Patrick and Mary in the 1911 Census (at 54 Market Street Tandragee) with James and Lizzie it would take my research to new heights :-)
Thank you to everyone for your quick replies
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How many year was Patrick married as per 1911 Census?
Armed with that just put name in, tick Marriages and search allowing a year or two each way...even leaving District blank.... then do same for James and look for one marrying a Nugent
or look for Births for Patrick's 3 children...get Mother's maiden name?? then look for Marriage!
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One is Patrick, with a wife, Mary - 1911 Irish Census shows them with their children living in Tandragee.
The other person is James Campbell whose wife was a Lizzie Nugent. They are also showing in the 1911 Census.
Just for everyone's information - 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Market_Street/332649/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Market_Street/332648/
KG
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Marriage of James Campbell and Elizabeth Nugent in 1887.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10799/5938401.pdf
KG
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https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0192 Ballymore and Mullabrack
Archdiocese of Armagh | County of Armagh
Variant forms of parish name:
Tandragee
Ballymore
Mullaghbrac
....for earlier recordsIF they were R.C.
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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
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Birth of Patrick James (aged 7 in 1911 census) MMN Kelly - 21st Nov 1903 #341
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01852/1721884.pdf
KG
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So, is this their marriage in 1899 in Tanderagee (sic)?
Patrick Campbell and Mary Eliza Kelly.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10376/5778078.pdf
KG
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The James of 1911 census with wife Lizzie is the James in question.
The Patrick of 1911 census is a son of the Patrick I'm wondering about.
Patrick (the father in the census) aged 39 in 1911
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So you need to look for the Marriages for your Patrick and James....
..not the sons of either!
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OP,
Is this the birth of Patrick in 1873, MMN McParland #420
His father is John Campbell.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03177/2165365.pdf
KG
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Yes, from what I've gleaned from somebody else's research - this is the Patrick in question whose mother is noted as "McCarland" in that person's tree.
Do you think it's the same Patrick of 1911 census Tandragee? A brother to James in Tandragee?
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Patrick Campbell's father named in his marriage record of 1899 is John Campbell. James Campbell's father named in his marriage record of 1877 is James Campbell.
KG