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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: purplefrankie on Friday 06 September 19 17:11 BST (UK)
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Would someone be kind enough to look for baptism of John James McIver, registered last quarter of 1913 Lanchester District. His parents - John James and Barbara Ann - were living at Tantobie in 1911 so possibly baptised at Tanfield.
Thanks in advance.
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https://twarchives.org.uk/collection/user-guides-and-information
I see on Tyne and Wear Archives Users Guides that they have a St Margaret, Tanfield with baptisms going up to 1915.
I will fit this baptism look up in for you on my way home from one of my nightshifts in the next few weeks. You will likely have to wait no longer than three weeks for me to be able to do this look up and let you know if there was a baptism there for John.
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Thank you so much River Tyne Lass. That would be fantastic.
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I have just called in quickly to the Tyne and Wear archives to do your look up on the way home from nightshift this morning - I have found it :):
Microfilm 1997
St Margaret, Tanfield
Entry 2278 Page 285
John James McIver
Baptised: 9 November 1913
Born: (I think it most looks like Sep 29 but could be 19, 1913
Parents: John James & Barbara Ann
Abode: Tantobie
Profession: Miner
Ceremony by A. W. Lister
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Thank you so much River Tyne Lass. This has confirmed he is the right person. Your help has been invaluable.
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McIVER baptisms in Tanfield St. Margaret's Church:
Josephine Askew McIVER. Born 27-Jun-1908. Baptised 19-Jul-1908. Daughter of John James, a miner, and Barbara Ann McIVER of Tantobie.
Elizabeth McIVER. Born 16-Sep-1911. Baptised 22-Oct-1911. Daughter of John James, a miner, and Barbara Ann McIVER of Tantobie.
John James McIVER. Born 29-Sep-1913. Baptised 09-Nov-1913. Son of John James, a miner, and Barbara Ann McIVER of Tantobie.
There were no McIVER Marriages or Burials recorded in the Registers of Tanfield St. Margaret’s Church.
McTalbert
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Thank you McTalbert. It's very kind of you to look for me and is most helpful.
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Did John and Barbara marry in Tynemouth registration district? If so,Marriage Locator suggests marriage was between two Churches:
http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk/cgi-bin/ML_search.cgi?year=1907&qtr=4&vol=10b&page=459&search=search
I wonder if this might have taken place at St Luke, Wallsend?
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Hi River Tyne Lass, Yes the marriage was in 1907 but I was unaware of the marriage locator website. I think you are probably right that the marriage was at St. Luke as I've never had any indication of Roman Catholic faith in the family. Many thanks.
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https://my.northtyneside.gov.uk/category/1017/local-studies-and-information
I see the North Shields library have some records for St Luke. I could check at some point in the next few weeks to see if they did marry there.
That marriage locator website is a great resource to find some marriages I learned about this on RootsChat. :)
Are these your ancestors purplefrankie? Or are you helping someone else out?
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Thanks for your offer to look for the marriage, it's very helpful and kind of you. These people are actually ancestors of my daughter in law. We are trying to do a comprehensive family tree and I am helping her where I can. She has, however, just reminded me that there was a marriage between a William McIver and Catherine McCudden at Newcastle in February 1850 at a Catholic Church (the name of which I can't remember at the moment, although she does have the certificate)
Thanks once again for your help
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Hi purplefrankie,
I popped in to the North Shields library yesterday and looked at the St Luke's records and John and Barbara did not marry at this Church.
I also went to St Peter's Church yesterday as this was open for the Heritage Open Days and the original registers were available to look at. By the way the originals are much clearer than can be seen on microfilm. As well as looking for my own ancestors' original records I also looked for John and Barbara. However, they did not marry there either.
As Marriage Locator suggests that the marriage was between the records for two Wallsend Churches, I think it is looking likely now that this took place at the St Columba RC Church. I can check this for you at the archives at some point in the next several weeks fitting in with work and family commitments.
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Hi River Tyne Lass,
Thanks for looking for me, I really do appreciate it. Like you, I try to help others if I possibly can.
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Hi purplefrankie,
I have managed finally to get a little time at the archives this morning to look for that marriage as I said I would. Unfortunately, I not find this at the St Columba Church either. I also tried two of the Willington (RC & Anglican) Churches and not there.
This is very puzzling. Perhaps you could try emailing the registrars office and ask them for the Church code. The code (at least if they married at an Anglican Church) will identify the Church.
The registrars used to have a great marriage index website where people could search for the codes themselves but they have since taken this down. The official line is that they will still supply the codes to people who enquire. Mind, I think the last time I emailed asking for a marriage code must have been at least 2-3 months ago or more and I am still waiting for a reply. However, this is not to say you might be luckier than me with this.
https://my.northtyneside.gov.uk/category/533/contact-registrars-office
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Hi River Tyne Lass,
Thank you so much for trying for me. It's so very kind of you. I'll have to try what you suggest and keep my fingers crossed.
Thanks again.
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Hang fire with the email, if it is not too late. I called in at the Registrar's this morning and the staff were very helpful. Unfortunately, a check revealed that the marriage took place at 'W'. The staff member then got out the actual register (although, of course I was not allowed to look at this); they then found that the marriage was actually at the register office.
Oh well, it was worth a try.
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Thank you again for going to all this trouble for me. It certainly explains why you couldn't find it in the registers.
Your help has been much appreciated.
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You are welcome. In a way, I am relieved that it was not just that I was missing an entry.
I have now added a brief note that this was a register office marriage as a 'postem' against their entries on Freebmd - this should be visable at some point in next 24 hours. I don't know if you are familiar with postems. I only learned about this on RootsChat. These are a great way to help others with bmd information that you have. :)
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I didn't really know about postems. However, now you've told me, I'll look into it as I've got a register office marriage in my family back in 1854. I bought the certificate after searching for the marriage in parish registers.