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Brilliant episode.
Her mother was of partial Irish descent through her fathers mother's family. I am sure Catherine O'Donnell (Nee Dowd) was of Irish extraction even if born c1845 in England. O'Donnell is found a lot in Donegal and Mayo.
I can relate to how she found her great gran was born in America to Thomas and Catherine O'Donnell. My own 3xgreat grandad went to the US in 1886 aged 58 to work in the coal mines and to live near a married daughter, and he died out there.
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I was initially skeptical after reading the blurb, but I really liked this one. Sharon was watchable and I found her quite likeable in this.
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I was initially skeptical after reading the blurb, but I really liked this one. Sharon was watchable and I found her quite likeable in this.
I agree. I don't like her, never have. I always thought that she was famous for being married to someone famous. But right from the start I found her story quite compelling. She is certainly not the person she portrays on TV.
I am glad I watched.
Regards
Chas
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She was much better on WDYTYA than on any other programme I have ever seen her on. She actually behaved fairly normally.
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I enjoyed this episode - first, because she lives very close to me so interesting to see inside her house, which I drive past regularly.
It showed very clearly the connection and movement between the UK and the USA for workers in the C19th. Anyone who has researched Lancashire cotton workers soon learns (or should) that if they suddenly disappear from the records it is always worth looking to see if they turn up in Fall River.
Some did make the return journey - I've seen quite a few examples in the neighbours of my Blackburn ancestors where out of numerous children, just one or two show as born in the USA on later censuses (as on this 1911 example).
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Another enjoyable episode ;D
As someone who has researched trees where the family moved from Ireland to USA and then to England or Isle of Man, it was of interest to me.
I liked Sharon Osbourne - she was genuinely interested.
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I also enjoyed this episode and found it interesting and informative. I didn't realise there was such a huge cotton industry in the USA. Sharon seemed genuinely interested in her family. I loved the clip of the Pony Trot dance! I would have liked to know where the American lady got the photos from
Chris
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I really enjoyed Sharon Osborne's story. That's two cracking WDYTYA episodes, one after the other !
Sharon (who I wasn't sure I was going to like) was lovely and seemed genuinely interested in uncovering her family history. Loved the info on her mother Hope and maternal grandmother Doris aka. Mabel - the stocking stealers :o
Wonder what happened to her grandfather after the marriage had broken down?
Looby :)
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That Mass. USA marriage:-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1M3-148?i=519&cc=1469062
Blue
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I really enjoyed this one was not sure how she would be as not that keen on her but she came across as a very genuine person and was very interested in her family ..I would say this is the best one so far
Rosie
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Looking forward to watching this on play back.
My ancestors nipped back and forth.from Scotland to.ireland for copper mines
to Canada USA and back.for gold mining
SOUTH AFRICA FOR railway engineering
But the coal mminers bleach workers +cloth lappers who went to USA in 1920's all stayed tho
With early generations .
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Possible birth for Catherine Dowd in England:-
Dowde, Catharine [Mother: Dyer]
1843
Jul/Aug/Sep
Manchester
Volume 20
Page 612
Blue
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My great great grandmother Amelia worked in the cotton mills in Manchester but her brother Elijah Simpkin migrated, with his new wife, to Lawrence, Massachusetts another major mill town, and later he must have brought his mother (my ggg mother) over as her death is recorded there in 1859.
So this story was of some interest to me for that reason.
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My 3xgreat grandfather went to America in 1886, and came back to the UK for about a year then left for America in April 1892, this time for good. He is on the 1900 US census, by then retired aged 72. Not mill works but mining. He was taken in by his daughter and her husband, and is with them in Allegheny, Pennsylvania in 1900 and died sometime after that. All from County Durham originally.
Sharon's ancestors went to America thinking it was the American dream but it wasn't. So Thomas O'Donnell and his eldest came back to England. It did seem they were enticed and worked in cramped dirty conditions. I would have taken the first boat back to England as well.
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I am going to have to watch the last 20 minutes on catch up - I dozed off!
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That's one of the most enjoyable episodes I've seen. Hats off the the people that make this programme - they keep managing to find interesting and varied stories. I'm guessing the researchers never found out what happened to Sharon's grandfather after he separated from Doris.
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I was surprised that I enjoyed this episode, I wasn`t going to watch it, but decided to as I`ve watched all the others. Have to say I too dozed off for about 5 minutes but did manage to see the end.
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Arthur James Shaw, known as just James Shaw, thus making it difficult to trace him if he was simply known as James in any other records as well as his army records. Causes lots of headaches when people gave incomplete info in records, especially if they had a common surname.
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Finally got to see this episode! Annie born America appears to have married a Sidney Jeffrey, she's on 1911 cenus in Manchester with children John , Cyril and Kathleen and 2 children of the second marriage. Annie is on 1939 record as a widow a cook living in Manchester,dying in 1947