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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Emmi on Thursday 18 August 05 00:24 BST (UK)
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Has anyone got the name Mellard (or a variation of the name) in their family tree?
All these three spellings appear for the same family on mine!
I have this branch of the family in Denby Dale and Wath-upon-Dearne
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Hello Emmi,
I see you have mentioned Varah Mellard on another thread. Although I'm not descended from Varah and Francis Elizabeth Tonkinson, I would like to find out how he is connected to the Mellard's of West Melton and Brampton Bierlow. I know that William Mellard (Brampton 1809) and Mary Ann (Wath) married and moved to Denby Dale. I know that Varah was born in Denby Dale and moved to West Melton but I cannot identify his parents or William's parents. Can you help?
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Hello Marsha'
Varah can be found on the 1851 census Denby Dale age 7 month with his parents James and Martha. His father James was born in Wath-upon-Dearne, and is the son of William and Ann.
The 1871 Census of Brampton Bierlow and West Melton shows Vara boarding with John and Sarah Mellard.
Are you connected to the family at all? Varah Mellard was my Grt Grt Grandfather.
Regards, Emmi
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Thanks Emmi. John Mellard, who Varah was lodging with in 1871, was the brother of my 2xGrt Grandfather Samuel (sons of Samuel Mellard and Mary Cooper). I don't know how William was related. Do you know when William and Ann married and who their parents were?
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Hello Marsha,
I haven't as yet found William and Ann's marriage but I'm still looking! Their first two Children were baptized at Wath-upon-Dearne, the rest at Denby Dale.
William's parents were Thomas and Rachel (NE Wilkinson) They married 13th Feb 1804 Halifax.
My branch of Mellard's seem to have constantly wandered between South and West Yorkshire and are taking some unraveling!
Regards, Emmi.
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Hello Emmi,
I'm trying to identify a William Mellard that was a witness to my 3xGrt Grandfather Samuel's first wedding (25/8/1808). It certainly wasn't his father William as he died in 1793. William signed the Register and I want to see if he was a witness for William and Ann and if so compare signatures. I was working along the lines that the wedding witness William may have been the father of the William born in Brampton about 1809 but your findings have thrown a spanner in the works! If I find the wedding record of William and Ann then I'll let you know.
Regards Marshall
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Thanks Marshall,
Good luck with your search, and I too will let you know if I find anything new. Hope to hear from you soon,
Regards, Emmi
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Hello Emmi,
I know you said William's parent were Thomas and Rachel (married in Halifax) but I can't see how this can be so, given that William was from Brampton.
I think William was the son of Samuel (my 3xgrt grandfather) and Ann Burgin. They had Sarah (bapt. Greasbrough 1/11/1807), William (bapt. Greasbrough 4/2/1810) and Mary (bapt. Wath 3/10/1813, died 22/5/1817). The family would have moved to West Melton (part of Brampton at that time) by the time William was 3 years old as Mary was born there. Samuel was widowed in 1814 and re-married in 1815. Children from this marriage were Samuel, Mary Ann, John and Elizabeth. It was this John Mellard that Varah was boarding with in 1871, his father's half uncle.
William's grandmother, Sarah (nee Norton) was baptised at Netherton, which may explain the connection with this area of the West Riding.
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There are Three Ridings in Yorkshire,
North Riding, West Riding and East Riding.
Don't know how people started referring to South Yorkshire, maybe when the 1974 Administration areas came into being.
It can cause confusion.
A lot of Mellors in Lancashire especially in the Oldham/Saddleworth areas which overlap into the West Riding.
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Huddersfield Mellors in my tree.
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To Dancing Master
You are quite correct there are 3 Yorkshire Ridings, in fact the word riding in this sense means 'a third' however, the term South Yorkshire is also quite correct as any given location (except perhaps the North and South Poles) can have North, South, East and West co-ordinates.
Dave
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Hi,
The head Luditte in Longroydbridge Huddersfield was called Mellor, Hung at York 1813 for the murder of Mr Horsefall ! a Mill owner from Marsden, also the battle of Liversage Mill. It has been said he was General Lud.
Bye
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I have family in Yorkshire and spent many many holidays there in the past on family farms.
Was brought up with the issue of Ridings, the older generations would be appalled at any references to Yorkshire other than by the traditional areas.
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My Granddad (as Photo left)was born Wales Village near Harthill Worksop Nottinghamshire / South Yorkshire of the West riding of Yorkshire border 1867 yet! Lived 2miles away in Clowne Derbyshire most of his life. My mother was born in Duckmanton Bolsover Derbyshire 1908 and lived Suttlewood and Clowne. Granddads Brother moved to Holmfirth Huddersfield 1921 from Duckmanton then my mother followed 1925 They had farms in Holmfirth, Wales, Clowne and Balsall Warwickshire. My fatherside was from Almondbury Huddersfield also Holmfirth and there are very traditional and place names around these locations. Today though it is Kirklees council of Kirklees Hall (home of Robin Hoods Sister and himself in his last years of life as ledgends surgest) Kirklees history goes way back to before Willy the Conk! 1066 ad. Today our muli culture society are proud of our Kirklees West Yorkshire borded to Nottingham of old and Sherwood.
Mellor as this post is an old proud family name of our native Yorkshire Shires with history
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Hello,
Just joined this organisation.
I am doing research on my wife's family. She was born Christine Mellard from Mansfield. I have tried to follow her father's line. Have got back to John Mellard and wife Rebecca. He was born C.1847 in Denby Dale (according to census records). Can't find his birth record for certain, but have found a John Mellard b. 1847 at Wath with father Samuel, a collier. Does this fit in with any of your research? Would be very grateful of any help.
Regards
Dave
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Hello Dave,
John Mellard, son of Samuel, was buried 17/3/1859 age 12. I think the one you're looking for is John Fieldend Mellard born Denby Dale about 1846. The family is named Mellor in the 1851 and 1861 census records but the father William is later named Mellard in the 1881 census. William was christened at Greasbrough but probably born at Nether Haugh, the family moved to West Melton before he was 3 years old. The christening record (4/2/1810) shows William son of Samuel Mellors and Ann. Samuel Mellard and Ann Burgin were married at Rotherham church (only chistenings at Greasbrough) on 25/8/1806. This Samuel is the father of the one you mentioned. There are many different spellings in the christening records i.e. Mellard, Mellars, Mellar, Mellers, Mellor, Mellors.
Samuel is the son of William Mellard and Sarah Norton married at Wath on 22/11/1773.
1851 census> Denby> District 3c> record # 12
1861 census> Denby> District 6> record # 182
Regards,
John
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Hi John (marsha11),
Thanks for your comments. Very useful indeed and looks like it will put me back on course.
So, back to the grindstone!!
Best wishes
Dave
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hi
my name is simon mellard and my dad is from brampton originally
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Welcome to Rootschat Simon :D. You'll find many resources on this website and kindly posters for advice, help and look ups.. :)
Regards Dobby
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I am doing a friends Family Tree and I have William Mellor circa 1807 Brampton married to a Ann Fieldsend circa 1811 Wath the only marriage I could find was in 1828 Barnsley. The 1st son I found James circa 1830 Wath I have found 9 children but only from the census their 7th child I found was a John Fieldsend Mellor circa 1846 .From 1851 to 1881 I have them in Denby in the 1881 census William surname is transcribed as Mellard.
Regards Carolanne
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hi Carolanne
im new to this site this is the first post ive made i just thought it would be interesting to know the family history. what info are you after? any mellards that live or have lived in this area that we know of? my dad (stephen mellard) is currently on holiday for the week but will be back soon then i can ask him anything you want to know
thanks
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Hiya Simon
I'm quite curious as to why the name change in different census I have William Mellor circa 1807 in the 1841,1851,as Mellor 1861,1871 as Meller but I put that down to being mistranscribed then in 1881 he is Mellard.
Also his son John Fieldsend Mellor born 1846 in 1861 changes to Meller in 1871 changes back to Mellor and 1881 to Mellard
Why or am I chasing the wrong family.The only one I'm 99.9% sure about is his daughter Sarah Mellor born circa 1839 I have a marriage cert she married in 1858 and it states her father as William Mellor occupation Dyer.
Regards Carolanne
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Hi carolanne,
William & Ann Mellard had their first two children baptised at Wath, James on 8/11/1829 and Mary Ann on 9/9/1832. William Mellard/Meller/Mellor was a miner. 50 years ago, the pronunciation of Mellard sounded like Mellerd and the d was almost silent, so I assume it had been like that for generations in the West Melton / Brampton area. If people could not complete their own census return, then the enumerator could easily record the name incorrectly.
Varah, the son of James, returned to the West Melton area and is recorded as Mellard in the 1871 census boarding with his father's half uncle (see reply #7).
Regards marshall
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Hiya Marsha
Yes I understand that so it looks like I have the right family I've also just realised the marriage I found on IGI was submitted and I know we have to be careful with that info so maybe its not right and I just jumped to conclusions with the name Ann Fieldsend.
This is the info
William Mellor or Mellord married Ann Fieldsend 27 July 1828 Barnsley.
I'm going to the library Thursday so if I've time I'll see if theres anything I can find but its knowing which church to look in.
Regards Carolanne
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Hi carolanne,
I would have expected William and Ann to get married at Wath church but I cannot find any record of this. The marriage at Barnsley sounds promising though. I know William's father, Samuel, married Sarah Kelly from Little Houghton on 8/12/1828 at Barnsley. This was his third wife; his first wife was Ann Burgin, William's mother and she was buried 8/8/1814; his second wife, Mary Cooper, was buried 21/6/1828. Samuel and William were probably living and working at Little Houghton (coal mined there from 1675). If Ann's parents where also living there, then this could explain why the marriage was at Barnsley. I'll have to have a look at the church record at Barnsley library for the marriage between William and Ann. It would be good if Samuel was a witness as I have a copy of his signature.
Regards marshall
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Hiya Marsha
Hopefully between us we might find something.
Regards
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Hiya Marsha
I've been to the library and found the marriage at St Mary's
William Mellard of this Parish, Batchelor and Anne Fieldsend of this Parish Spinster were married in the Church by Banns with consent of (blank) this 27 day of July in the year 1828 By me Robert Willan (Curate ) In the Presence of Charles Thewliss and Martha Smith
Regards Carolanne
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Hi carolanne,
Well done! This is the marriage that Emmi was looking for (see reply #4), but she's not been on the site since November. Did William sign the register or was it his mark? Nice to see the name is spelt correctly.
I noticed on the 1851 census that the enumerator has put William's birthplace as Greersbrook! He's obviously never heard of Greasbrough but that's an easy mistake to make when the pronunciation was Greersbro.
If you get any further back than William Mellard (1754) then please post it here.
Regards marshall
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Hiya Marsha
Willaim has put his mark but theres nothing at the side of Anne's name so she must have wrote it herself. If you would like a copy e-mail me your addy.
Regards Carolanne
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Saying hello to everyone, I've not been here for quite a while, I see I've missed a lot and hope you are all still around to talk to.
Regards Emmi
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Nice to see you back on this thread Emmi. I'm still chasing the William Mellard that was a witness to my 3xGrt Grandfather Samuel's first wedding (25/8/1808). I'm assuming they were brothers but can't find a christening for William.
Regards,
marshall
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Hi Marsha,
on the 1851 census of Denby Dale
William age 44 is down as being born at Greetland Yorks.
Ann wife age 40 born Wath
Their first child James, whom I'm descended from was born Wath (he lives next door with wife and son Vara)
then Mary Ann 18 yrs born Notton
rest of children born Denby Dale
Have to run, catch you later, Emmi
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Hi Emmi,
The birthplace of William on the 1851 census is shown as Greerbrook which I think is a misinterpretation of Greasbrough (see reply #27). His age is shown as 41 on the census record although this has been incorrectly indexed as 44. He was baptised at Greasbrough church on 4/2/1810 (see reply #8).
The William I'm still looking for was probably the brother of William's (1809/10) father, Samuel.
Regards,
marshall
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Hi Marshall,
It's quite a number of years since I collected the information from the census, yes I remember the recorded information being unclear and having to ask for help deciphering it, the member of staff recognized the word as 'Greetland' and directed me to the parish where I found the baptism entry.
Regards, Emmi