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Title: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: Finscar08 on Wednesday 21 August 19 20:43 BST (UK)
Hi,
Can anyone help with the "Raggatt" family?

I am following the Raggatt family line and would like to know if the 2 husband's of Florence Walker were related?
Both of her husband's and her mother have the surname "Raggatt"

Florence Walker b.1880, Neath, Wales married twice to a "Raggatt"
First spouse:
Ernest Frederick William Raggatt b.1870, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Married: 1905, Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales

Second Spouse:
Arthur Lloyd Raggatt b. 1891, Natimuk, Victoria, Australia
Married: 1916, Parish Church, Llantwit, Neath, Glamorgan, Wales

Florence's  Mother: Eliza Raggatt  b.1846, Yate, Gloucestershire, England
Father: Joseph Walker  b. 1845, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England

Thanks
Meg
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: [Ray] on Wednesday 21 August 19 21:01 BST (UK)
Hi,     

[ for the notes pile ]     

Is it def "Raggatt" and not "Raggett"?     

SWHerts has Raggett residents around that time.     


R
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: Finscar08 on Wednesday 21 August 19 21:11 BST (UK)
Hi Ray
Thank you for your prompt reply much appreciated
The spellings for the "Raggatt" family have been many
Raggatt, Rockett, Rackett, Ragett, Raggett
It depends on who has transcribed the information

Meg
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 21 August 19 21:51 BST (UK)
parish record for the first marriage

12 June 1905 All Saints, Parish of Kilvey by licence
Ernest William Frederick Raggatt 34 bach locomotive fireman 48 Windmill Tce, father Frederick Neale Raggatt (deceased) accountant &
Florence Walker 24 spin 4 Walter Road, father Joseph Walker time keeper
witnesses D W Raggatt & C H Lewis (?)

death reg Ernest F W Raggatt 41 march qtr 1912 Ormskirk vol 8b pg 1097
birth reg Ernest Frederick W Raggatt sept qtr 1870 Cheltenham vol 6a pg 409 mmn Turner
marriage Frederick Neale Raggatt march qtr 1870 Cheltenham vol 6a pg 624 with Sarah Ann Turner on the same page
death reg Frederick Neale Raggatt 58 jun qtr 1903 Swansea vol 11a pg 533

and for second marriage
30 March 1916 parish church of Llantwit juxta Neath
Arthur Lloyd Raggatt 25 bach farmer C Squadron 9th Australian Light Horse, Westham Camp Weymouth, father Thomas Raggatt farmer &
Florence Raggatt full age widow 41 Walters(?) Rd father Joseph Walker foreman
witnesses Joseph Walker & Irene Davies
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 21 August 19 22:36 BST (UK)
1851 census 1 Rounceval St Chipping Sodbury HO107/1956 folio 130 pg 34
William Raggatt head mar 31 ag lab b. Yate
Harriett wife 30 b. Yate
Frederick N son 5 b. Chipping Sodbury
Ernest C son 1 b. Chipping Sodbury
Hannah visitor mar 66 b. Westerleigh

William Raggatt married Harriett Neale 18 March 1844 at St Mary Redcliffe, Bristol, his father Daniel.
Daniel Raggatt married Hannah Farmer 19 Oct 1809 at Westerleigh

index for Eliza's marriage to Joseph Walker 22 May 1869 gives her father as James Raggatt. Family is on the 1851 census in Yate with surname noted as Rackett HO107/1956 folio 566 pg 14.

Possible marriage for James Rackett 30 May 1837 to Ann Sargeant

It's possible that William & James were brothers, but haven't found baptisms as yet...
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: Finscar08 on Thursday 22 August 19 12:51 BST (UK)
Hi Osprey
Firstly thank you for taking the time to send all this information on the Raggetts
I think there must be a connection between all these Raggetts marrying with the same surname
I have never come across somebody marrying twice with the same surname

Please may I ask a question:
How do I find the Volume and Page Number for the GRO on a Marriage in 1778 and 1809?
Daniel Raggatt married Hannah Farmer 19 Oct 1809 at Westerleigh, Gloucestershire
William Raggatt married Susanna Gardner 22 Jun 1778 at Old Sodbury, Gloucestershire
Free bmd does not start until Sept. 1837
I have also looked at Ancestry and FindMyPast without success

Meg
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: Christine53 on Thursday 22 August 19 13:29 BST (UK)
Arthur Lloyd Raggatt
male
born 1891
birthplace : Natimuk
father Thomas
mother Grace Blanche Gartrell
Reg no 15498
Victoria, Australia


Thomas Raggatt
22
Marriage date 5 Aug 1878
District Frome , South Australia
father Thomas Raggatt
spouse Grace Gartrell
21
father Henry Gartrell
Reg no 116/1056

Thomas Ragget
b 4 Dec 1855
South Australia
Registration place Adelaide
page 260 vol 5
father Thomas Raggett
mother Ann Sophia Stephens

Thos Raggatt
b1856
age 87
death reg year 1943
death place Tongala, Victoria
reg no 18495
father Thos Raggatt
mother Ann Stevens

Thomas Raggatt , full age, labourer , of Old Sodbury , father Daniel Raggatt
Ann Sophia Stephens , 18 , spinster , of Marshfield , father Mary Stephens(as written on cert)
married 21 May 1848 , Marshfield

Thomas Raggatt and unnamed wife dep 24 Aug 1848 from London via Plymouth
Ship Baboo
Arrived Port Adelaide 5 Dec 1848
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: Finscar08 on Thursday 22 August 19 13:38 BST (UK)
Hi Christine
Many thanks for the information

Meg
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: Christine53 on Thursday 22 August 19 13:45 BST (UK)
Daniel Raggatt married Hannah Farmer
19 Oct 1809
Westerleigh , Gloucester , England

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFY1-C4W

1841 census
Daniel Ragatt 55 b Gloucestershire
Hannah Ragatt 55
Daniel Ragatt 18
Ann Ragatt 17
Thomas Ragatt 14
Mary Gordon 6
living Grumbalds Ash , Old Sodbury
HO107/357  Book: 7/23 p 2

Oops  - sorry , osprey had already given the marriage in 1809
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: Christine53 on Thursday 22 August 19 13:56 BST (UK)

Please may I ask a question:
How do I find the Volume and Page Number for the GRO on a Marriage in 1778 and 1809?
Daniel Raggatt married Hannah Farmer 19 Oct 1809 at Westerleigh, Gloucestershire
William Raggatt married Susanna Gardner 22 Jun 1778 at Old Sodbury, Gloucestershire
Free bmd does not start until Sept. 1837

you will not find Volume and Page numbers for pre 1837 events.  You will need to search for parish records , many of which are on line , or visit the appropriate Archives Office if that is an option for you.( Ancestry has good coverage of Gloucestershire records .)
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: Capetown on Thursday 22 August 19 14:53 BST (UK)
There is a website


Welcome to the Raggatt website

etc etc


can't seem to do the link.


Ancestry:

Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills

Will of Jacob Raggatt, Blacksmith of Old Sodbury, 14 May 1808

Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: Capetown on Thursday 22 August 19 15:11 BST (UK)
From the Forest of Dean, Marriage Licences/Allegations etc


22 Jun 1778

William RAGGET, occupation: Horse Driver, residence: Old Sudbury

Susannah GARDNER, residence, St Michaels in the City of Bath


Marriage by Bond.

He marks

Witness 1, The mark of Stephen Rodgers of labourer of Old Sodbury

The groom and Stephen Rogers are bound in the sum of £500.  To marry at Old Sodbury.

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The second transcript if the Licence - the record has been transcribed as RAGGER - but Licences, gives more info.

22 June 1778

William RAGGER, aged 20, Horse Driver, Old Sodbury

Susannah GARDNER, over 21 - residence: St Matthews City of Bath

Marriage by Licence
Event type: Marriage Allegations

To marry at Old Sodbury

Transcriber's notes:

Licence issued by R COATES, any abbreviated forename has been extended to the full name.




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Assume, as William was a Horse Driver, he travelled around quite a bit.

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There are others listed in the Forest of Dean Records and include

2 Mar 1727
William RAGGETT - residence: Sodbury vet

Elizabeth HARRETT - residence: Hawkesbury

By Licence

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Ancestry, has

Gloucestershire, England, Land Tax Records 1713-1833 and results for RAGGATT including quite a number of RAGGATT/RAGGETT/RAGGOTT/RACOTT/ROGGOTT from Old Sodbury (Hundred of Grumfold Ash) and Wm RAGGOTT - Old Somerby etc. etc

This is another source of information.
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: Finscar08 on Thursday 22 August 19 17:28 BST (UK)
Hi everyone
I would like to thank you all for your information
I have been busy looking up Parish Registers on Ancestry.
thank you once again
Meg
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: Tewkesburyboy on Thursday 30 January 20 20:00 GMT (UK)
Dear Meg,
I am Peter Raggatt of raggatt2@onetel.net and I live in UK in St Neots which is 20 miles west of Cambridge. raggatt.org.uk is my site but I don't update it much - it's an aid to making contact more than anything. My family came from Chipping Sodbury area.
I sent a reply to you in Aug 2019 but to be honest I'd forgotten it! Then this evening I came across your query again and I wondered how you are getting on and I also wondered if you had been affected by the terrible fires in NSW etc. 
My family in UK has several connections with Raggatts/Raggetts in Australia. Notably there was Thomas Raggatt b 1826 who married Annie Sophia Stevens in 1848 and emigrated to the Strathalbyn area and has many descendents in Oz. This Thomas was a brother of my gt gt grandfather James Raggatt, both were sons of Daniel. Later Fred Raggatt, brother of my gt granadfather Rufus, emigrated and ended up in Alice Springs. Another brother Francis (Frank) emigrated to Wilmington, S Australia. All have descendents. There is also Sir Harold Raggatt b 1809 who was almost certainly of a connected family. His grandfather Edward Claude emigrated to NSW in1870  I think. What confuses things is that in England, Raggatt, Raggett, Raggot and even Rackett were written down in public records and often there was minimum other data. If I can help please ask me.
Title: Re: Help please with the "Raggatt" Family
Post by: Finscar08 on Thursday 06 February 20 13:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter
Sorry for the delay sending you an e-mail
Meg