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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: gela on Tuesday 06 August 19 19:06 BST (UK)
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Hello
I am related to Rosetta smith and Francis Brown and their daughter Eliza Smith and her partner Nathaniel Smith.
I have had the DNA test done with Ancestry and I am coming up with a match to someone from the Stanley family they are showing as a 4th-6th cousin.
Does anyone know of any connections these familes might have .I know nothing about the Stanley's only did some go to America.
Any help and info would be really appreciated
Many thanks
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Those are fairly common names, so if you expect anyone to help you then you will probably have to provide more details about dates and locations.
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Rosetta was born 1808 Wymondham Leicestershire her parents were William and Charlotte Smith
( could be grandaughter of Wisdom and Hannah Smith)
Francis Brown was born in 1805 Muston Leicestershire to a Thomas Brown and a Johanna Dalton
sometimes showing born 1804 Laxton Nots
The Stanley line i am looking at is
Benjamin Stanley born abt 1774 coupled with Joan Boswell who had
Owen Stanley born 1793 Reading coupled with Harriet Wharton
Just wondering if the connection is through Joan Boswell
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Francis Brown was born in 1805 Muston Leicestershire to a Thomas Brown and a Johanna Dalton
sometimes showing born 1804 Laxton Nots
Are you saying you have 2 baptisms for the same person with same parents in 2 different locations?
I'm not understanding the 'sometimes' reference, he either was or he wasn't?
Annie
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Francis Brown Baptism
2nd Jan 1806 Muston Leicestershire
francis son of thomas brown and his wife johanna was baptised on the 2nd jan 1806 under a hedge in the parish of sedegbrook, he was born in a flood, the father a chimney sweep belonging to market harborough.
In the 1861 census he has put he was born 1804 Laxton Nots
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I am still not understanding what makes you think that your DNA match may be connected to you through these particular people. Have you been reviewing shared matches that narrow it down to a specific side of your tree. Does your match have your Smith ancestors in their tree? Is Ancestry suggesting a path to the common ancestors?
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I have had the DNA test done with Ancestry and I am coming up with a match to someone from the Stanley family they are showing as a 4th-6th cousin.
Like Craclyn, I'm not understanding why you're looking at all the names quoted if the match is with Stanley?
Annie
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No i have no Stanley's in my tree ,so someone from my family line must have got together with someone from the Stanley family.
Some of my family married into the Boswell family and Joan Boswell is in the Stanley tree so i might just look at her.
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But what makes you think that your connection to this person is through that line rather than another line? I am still missing something in my understanding of how you arrived at your hypothesis.
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Ditto, not that I know much about DNA but the arrival of a connection whether DNA or Paper Trail still needs a route which you haven't stated...road to nowhere at the moment?
You need to be more specific as to how you arrived at a connection which isn't so far evident in your trail/thought?
Your DNA match is with the person who uploaded their data i.e. you need to find out where you both connect along the way to come to a conclusion as to which ancestor it might be?
Annie
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I am going to look at Charlotte Smith who married William Smith he could be a son of Wisdom and Hannah.
mariage
William Smith to Charlotte Smith ,3rd August 1806 , Howell Lincs , gypsies
Some poeple have her down as Charlotte Allen , Charlotte Booth , Charlotte Boswell
William and Charlotte are suppose to be the parents of Alice and Charlotte Smith that had children to Lazurus Elijah Boswell
I am going to see if there could be some connection with her and Joan Boswell
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Does anyone please know anything about Mary Smith who was the mother of Ameila Stanley and her connections to the Stanley family.
when she died in America she was referred to as Aunt Mary Smith and Mrs Mary Stanley Smith in the papers , it said she was a gypsy aged 112 born England , mother of Amelia Jeffery,21 children , burried in Woodland cemetery.
In the 1870 Ohio census it shows her as Mary Smith,aged 89,born 1781 England, living with her daughter Amelia Jeffery aged 35, born 1835 England.
Is this Ameila's marriage
1855 Stoke Damerel Devon
Amelia Burgess , minor , father George Burgess a china man
Thomas Jeffery , full age, Tin man, father Matthew Jeffery a Tin man
witness Elizabeth Allen
found a baptism
Amelia Elizabeth Burgess and Marianna Burgess
parents Richard and Mary Burgess
15th Nov 1835
Swineshead Lincs.
any info would be a great help
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The records you mention have Amelia with surnames Burgess and Jeffery. Where does Amelia Stanley fit in. Do you think this is the same Amelia, and if so when was her name Stanley?
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Could Mary Smith be Benjamin Stanley’s sister.
I just wonder if perhaps Mary Smith is grandmother rather than mother to Amelia looking at her age.
Is there a Burgess gypsy family , I don’t know
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There doesn't seem to be a researched path which leads to your theories which is needed in order for others to help rather than plucking names out which have no attachment to compare to/with as you don't show how you connect with those names.
Good luck in your search.
Annie
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I agree with Rosinish. I am still struggling to understand what you are trying to do here.