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Title: Peter Stephan b c1796 Madeley
Post by: DevonJewel on Tuesday 06 August 19 15:04 BST (UK)
I Have found Peter Stephan in various Census going forward from 1841 giving his birth date as 1796 -1801, but I haven't found a birth record for him on FMPast.   Please can someone perhaps check another site.
My other query is how would I find out who his father was as there is no mention on the 1841 census.
Many thanks
DJ
Title: Re: Peter Stephan b c1796 Madeley
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 06 August 19 15:43 BST (UK)
Daughter Clara bn 1856 has mmn Bradley on the birth index.  Could this be his marriage to Susanna which should give details for his father

Marriage Sep qtr 1850 
Bradley    Susannah       
Stephan    Peter       
Madeley    18   109

The image is on FindMyPast which you say you have access to
Title: Re: Peter Stephan b c1796 Madeley
Post by: DevonJewel on Tuesday 06 August 19 16:24 BST (UK)
Doh! How embarrassing! Yes of course you are right - and his father's name of course was also Peter!!
So taking a guess looking at FindMyPast His father married Hannah Johnson on 18 Dec 1801 and he died 2Q 1845 Madeley.

Thanks for your help, any thoughts as to how I might get further info please?
DJ
Title: Re: Peter Stephan b c1796 Madeley
Post by: ColC on Tuesday 06 August 19 16:29 BST (UK)
I’m not sure if I have the right family but there is a Peter Stephan age 65 living in Broseley, Madeley in 1861 with his wife Susanna and children but he was born in Stoke, Staffordshire?

Colin
Title: Re: Peter Stephan b c1796 Madeley
Post by: ColC on Tuesday 06 August 19 16:33 BST (UK)
This is the 1861 Census on family search, 1851 there also.

Peter Stephan   Head   Male   65   Stoke, Staffordshire
Susanna Stephan   Wife   Female   50   Madeley, Shropshire
Hannah Stephan   Daughter   Female   19   Broseley, Shropshire
George Stephan   Son   Male   17   Broseley, Shropshire
Edward Stephan   Son   Male   14   Broseley, Shropshire
Peter Stephan   Son   Male   11   Broseley, Shropshire
Clara Stephan   Daughter   Female   5   Broseley, Shropshire

Colin
Title: Re: Peter Stephan b c1796 Madeley
Post by: DevonJewel on Tuesday 06 August 19 16:37 BST (UK)
Many thanks.
Yes that's the family and I have most of the Census info but the same old problem of going back pre 1841 .... for his parents etc.
He was apparently a skilled artist at the potteries.
Title: Re: Peter Stephan b c1796 Madeley
Post by: ColC on Tuesday 06 August 19 16:43 BST (UK)
There is a tree on family search which suggests his father Peter was born in Germany, married there first, then a second marriage to Hannah in Stoke on Trent.

The 1871 census states Peter junior was born  Stoke Up Wentbridge, Staffordshire, but I can find no reference to that place.

Colin
Title: Re: Peter Stephan b c1796 Madeley
Post by: ColC on Tuesday 06 August 19 16:53 BST (UK)
On freereg.
Peter STEPHAN, a modeller, Marriage to Hannah JOHNSON 18 Dec 1801   Staffordshire   
Stoke-upon-Trent : St Peter ad Vincula. Witnesses Saml. POULSON & Saml. TURNER

No childrens baptisms, until 1859 when John a Potter & Sarah hed children, maybe a brother of Peter.

Colin