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Title: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: carol02 on Saturday 03 August 19 16:31 BST (UK)
Help please in finding the following family from the 1870 Census St Louis, Missouri.  The surname is Sandall but spelt Santell on the census.
                 George Sandall born 1835 England
                  August? wife born 1839 England
                  Emma Sandall born 1859 Iowa,
                  William Sandall born 1861 Missouri
                  Henry Sandall born 1864 Missouri
                  Sarah Sandall born 1869 Missouri
I found a baptism of Ann Elizabeth Sandall born 28 Jan 1872 Missouri.
Carol
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: Christine53 on Saturday 03 August 19 17:14 BST (UK)
Possible marriage :

Augusta Chambers and George Sandell  18 Feb 1858 Lee , Iowa
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XV9R-FB3


No other details given.
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: Christine53 on Saturday 03 August 19 17:28 BST (UK)
Possible arrival of Augusta Chambers in 1857 :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27RJ-KDG

Elisbeth Chambers 42
Augusta Chambers 16
Sarah Chambers 7
Emily Chambers 6
Chas Chambers 0
Mary Ann Chambers 10
arrived 2 Jan 1857 New York from Liverpool
ship Columbia
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 August 19 17:38 BST (UK)
George Sandall born 1835 passed away 17 April 1879 St. Louis, St Louis, Missouri

Missouri death record - George Sandall - England
Death Date 17 Apr 1879 - Cemetery Bellefontaine
Address:   Res 1218 S 7th/city Hosp
Volume 9 Page 581

Sandra
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 August 19 17:45 BST (UK)


August Sandall - born 1839 - aged 38 years
Death Date 3 Dec 1877 St. Louis, St Louis, Missouri.

August Sandall born England passed away 3 December 1877 -
Cemetery:   Bellefontaine Address:   1319 S 6th
Volume 8 Page 138


Sandra
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 August 19 17:48 BST (UK)

Wonder if this is Emma Sandall - Emma Sandell born 1859 and aged 20 years.
Death Date 24 May 1879 St. Louis, St Louis, Missouri.

Sandra
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 August 19 18:02 BST (UK)
Mary Ann Chambers - 31 May 1846    All Saints, Leamington Priors, Warwickshire. Father Henry Chambers mother Elizabeth.

1880 census Saint Louis, St Louis (Independent City), Missouri.

M. A. Hopwood   34 born England. widowed.
Lillian Hopwood   14 born Missouri
Charles Hopwood 12 born Missouri
William Chambers 36 born Eng.
Charles Chambers 23 born Eng.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6FT-2SQ

1900 census Blaine Avenue St Louis Ward 24, St Louis (Independent City), Missouri.

Mary A Hopwood 53 born Eng. Imm 1857. Had 2 children. 2 survive.
Chas A Hopwood 32 born Missouri. bricklayer.
Chas Chambers   45 born March 1855 Eng. Brother. Single.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M3DH-XPV

1910 census McKee St Louis Ward 24, Saint Louis City, Missouri

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M218-JLG

1920 McCree Avenue St Louis Ward 24, St Louis (Independent City), Missouri.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M88W-FFJ



Sandra





Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: RJ137 on Saturday 03 August 19 18:03 BST (UK)
Help please in finding the following family from the 1870 Census St Louis, Missouri.  The surname is Sandall but spelt Santell on the census.
                 George Sandall born 1835 England
                  August? wife born 1839 England
                  Emma Sandall born 1859 Iowa,
                  William Sandall born 1861 Missouri
                  Henry Sandall born 1864 Missouri
                  Sarah Sandall born 1869 Missouri


After her parents died the youngest, Sarah/Sally went to live with her Aunt & Uncle.

She is listed twice in the 1880 census. Once as daughter and once as niece.

1880 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6FP-STR

1800 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6N4-RQ2

Sarah/Sally married a Hoffman and died in 1942. Her deathcert. gives parents as George Sandalls (England) and Augusta Chambers(England).

DC: https://www.sos.mo.gov/images/archives/deathcerts/1942/1942_00022179.PDF
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 August 19 18:05 BST (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

Mary A Hopwood - 1846 - 12 November 1922 (aged 76 years)

BURIAL    Bellefontaine Cemetery Saint Louis, St. Louis City, Missouri.
Plot   block 202 lot 407, buried November 14, 1922

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/107361394

John Hopwood - 1870

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/107361507/john-hopwood

St. Louis Post-Dispatch   St. Louis, Missouri 16 Nov 1922, Thu  -   Page 18

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34523737/mary_hopwood_burial_permit/

Charles A Hopwood - 1861 - 1948

   
Valhalla Cemetery Bel-Nor, St. Louis County, Missouri.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/142653477

spouse Nellie - 1867 - 1928

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/142653381/nellie-hopwood



Sandra

Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: RJ137 on Saturday 03 August 19 18:10 BST (UK)

After her parents died the youngest, Sarah/Sally went to live with her Aunt & Uncle.

She is listed twice in the 1880 census. Once as daughter and once as niece.

1880 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6FP-STR

1800 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6N4-RQ2

Sarah/Sally married a Hoffman and died in 1942. Her deathcert. gives parents as George Sandalls (England) and Augusta Chambers(England).

DC: https://www.sos.mo.gov/images/archives/deathcerts/1942/1942_00022179.PDF

Joseph Lackay's wife Emy was Augusta's sister. Her DC list her maiden name as Chambers.

She died in 1912 and her husband Joseph in 1917.

Emy's DC: https://www.sos.mo.gov/images/archives/deathcerts/1912/1912_00003502.PDF

Joseph's DC: https://www.sos.mo.gov/images/archives/deathcerts/1917/1917_00012973.PDF
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 August 19 18:16 BST (UK)
Death Notice for Charles A Hopwood - St. Louis Globe-Democrat  St. Louis, Missouri 28 Jan 1948, Wed  -  Page 22

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34523958/charles_hopwood_husband_of_nellie/

Death Notice for Nellie Hopwood  St. Louis Globe-Democrat  St. Louis, Missouri
12 Jun 1928, Tue  -   Page 29

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34524083/nellie_hopwood/

Death Notice for Charles G Hopwood - son of Charles and Nellie

St. Louis Post-Dispatch  St. Louis, Missouri 21 Jul 1985, Sun  -   Page 53

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34524271/charles_g_hopwood_son_of_charles_a/

Charles J Hopwood had married Chlow L Dell - 21 July 1928   - Hillsboro, Jefferson, Missouri.

The couple divorced - Chloe Hopwood appears divorced in 1940 - living with son Robert Hopwood (1929)

FIND A GRAVE

Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery Lemay, St. Louis County, Missouri
Plot   section C site 1154

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/150221804

Robert S Hopwood - 1929 - 1974

Carson Hill Cemetery - Mill Spring, Wayne County, Missouri

Sandra
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: RJ137 on Saturday 03 August 19 18:37 BST (UK)
It appears Henry Chambers and the sons immigrated first in July 1856. They are listed as bricklayers. I assume they came first to establish a home.

New York Passenger Lists 1856: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27RX-D3N

Then in 1857 as posted earlier in the thread the female immigrated in early 1857.

New York Passenger Lists 1857: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27RJ-KD5

The 1860 census has Henry the son listed as bricklayers.

1860 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHZP-2JP
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: Genealiza on Saturday 03 August 19 18:38 BST (UK)
Sandall burials at Bellefonaine Cemetery:

https://burialsearch.com/ecims#/s/354/Bellefontaine_Cemetery_Association

Put in the surname
Click on a name and it will show you where they are buried
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: carol02 on Saturday 03 August 19 18:50 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone, it all fits together now as I have Eliza Sandall marrying Henry Chambers.  The Sandalls came from Leamington Priors, Warwickshire.
Carol
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 August 19 18:51 BST (UK)

That's great Carol - do you wish us to continue or you have enough.  ;)

Sandra
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: carol02 on Saturday 03 August 19 19:02 BST (UK)
If I find any missing I will come back for more help, thanks again.
Carol
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: carol02 on Monday 05 August 19 12:49 BST (UK)
Could someone please solve the problem I have with Henry Chambers born 1841 and baptised in Leamington Priors.  I thought he was from the same Chambers family that George Sandall married into.  He married Eliza Sandall and is buried in Boone County.  The problem I have with it is the birth place given is London and he was a farmer. So I am unsure whether he was from the same family or a different Henry Chambers.
Carol
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: carol02 on Thursday 27 October 22 18:45 BST (UK)
Hi all
         I am still trying to find Henry Sandall born 1864. On the 1880 census he is 16, living with his grandmother Elizabeth Chambers in St Louis, Missouri.
         I found him in 1882 in a directory and in 1904 with the surname Sandwall.
          He disappears after that so I am hoping someone could help find him.
                      Thanks
                                Carol
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: oldohiohome on Saturday 29 October 22 13:51 BST (UK)
It appears Henry Chambers and the sons immigrated first in July 1856. They are listed as bricklayers. I assume they came first to establish a home.

New York Passenger Lists 1856: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27RX-D3N
There is a George Sandler, age 21, gardener, listed after the Chambers. They were all in a 2nd Cabin.
Could this be George Sandall who married Augusta Chambers?
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: carol02 on Saturday 29 October 22 14:03 BST (UK)
George did marry Augusta Chambers in 1858.  Its their son Henry I am trying to find.
Title: Re: Sandall - St Louis, Missouri
Post by: oldohiohome on Saturday 29 October 22 14:09 BST (UK)
I'm still looking for both Henrys, Chambers and Sandall.
I just wanted to be sure you saw the George Sanders on the manifest, because it looked like Augusta's husband to me.

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re Henry Chambers, have you found him in 1870? They should have their oldest daughter Annie with them. His occupation might help identify him.
Other than that, if there aren't any other Henry Chambers in the area, then he is probably son of Henry (b 1814) and Elizabeth. To many Americans all of England is London, and all of Canada is either Toronto or Montreal, all of New York State is New York City, etc.  So I wouldn't worry much about his birthplace on a death record or a tombstone - I don't know where you found "London" - I did see it at findagrave.