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Title: name given in the transcription is Mary* Sullcirge
Post by: ianafh on Tuesday 30 July 19 21:25 BST (UK)
Hello,

can any one help with the name and occupation please?

The name given in the transcription is Mary* Sullcirge but I don't know why it's marked * and I'm not sure the last name is correct.

Thanks
Ian
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: NooshieW on Tuesday 30 July 19 21:30 BST (UK)
The occupation is Annuitant, which is a pensioner or someone in receipt of a fixed sum of money each month for example.
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: ladybird on Tuesday 30 July 19 21:31 BST (UK)
The occupation is Annuitant. Not sure about the surname, that's a toughie but someone here will decipher it  :)
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: Viktoria on Tuesday 30 July 19 21:32 BST (UK)
The word you ask about is Annuitant,she had an annuity,a sort of pension.
I will have another look at the name,is it possible to let us see a bit more for
comparison?
Viktoria
Modified,
Sorry folks, your posts had not appeared when I started  mine.
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: Skoosh on Tuesday 30 July 19 21:32 BST (UK)
Annuitant, independent means!

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 30 July 19 21:33 BST (UK)
Can you give us the context - who is she with, where, which census is this?
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 30 July 19 21:40 BST (UK)
It looks like Mary Sullange
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 30 July 19 21:45 BST (UK)
For those who want to look, she's on RG10/1649/74/2
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 30 July 19 21:53 BST (UK)
In 1861, she's down as Sullings

RG09/1071/57/5
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: ianafh on Tuesday 30 July 19 22:38 BST (UK)
Annuitant, brilliant, thank you. I must have spent an hour looking at that!

Sullings or Sullange, thanks, I'll keep looking.

Ian
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 30 July 19 22:57 BST (UK)
She seems to be the mother* and grandmother of ?James Burns, so either she married twice or she used her maiden name.   Also, the 1861 says she was the widow of a fisherman.  Born circa 1785  in Norfolk in 1871 and Essex in 1861.

Gadget

Added - later found that she was the mother in law of James Burn, her daughter Mary Ann Sulling married James Burn in 1834.(Reply #13)
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 30 July 19 23:10 BST (UK)
IN 1841 the family are in Barking

HO107/323/2/10/14

Mary Sulling, 50,  Fisherman's wife
George, 15, Blacksmith's app(rentice)
Mary Burns, 30,  Fisherman's wife
James, 6
Mary, 1

All born Essex

I assume the husbands are away fishing

Gadget

Sulling is pretty clearly written!
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 30 July 19 23:19 BST (UK)
George Thomas Sulling married Jan 13 1853 in Shoreditch. Occupation, Blacksmith. Father given as Thomas Sulling, Fisherman.

Gadget
Title: Re: Help with name and occupation
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 31 July 19 08:42 BST (UK)
Here we are, Mary Sullling''s daughter, Mary Ann, married James Burns

Marriage - 3 April 1834 , All Saints, Poplar
James Solomom Burns to Mary Ann Sulling


Gadget
Title: Re: name given in the transcription is Mary* Sullcirge
Post by: ianafh on Wednesday 31 July 19 12:45 BST (UK)
Thank you again, that is very helpful.
Title: Re: name given in the transcription is Mary* Sullcirge
Post by: ianafh on Wednesday 31 July 19 12:53 BST (UK)
Gadget, can I ask how and where you found the marriage?

I need to improve my search skills as even with the information you provided I can't find the marriage!

Ian.
Title: Re: name given in the transcription is Mary* Sullcirge
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 31 July 19 14:32 BST (UK)
1851 if not already found;
Barking, Essex
Thomas Sullinger, 66, Head, Mar, Fisherman, born Hornchurch, Essex
Mary Sullinger, 61, Wife, Mar, born Lopham, Norfolk
George Sullins, 28, Son, Unm, Blacksmith, born Barking, Essex

Baptisms Barking;
MARY ANNE Sullinge 21 Feb 1810
GEORGE THOMAS Sullinge 02 Feb 1823
(FreeREG)

A Tree has Mary as nee GAGE married 1820 Essex but the entry is on FreeREG and they were Bachelor/Spinster.
So not likely as Mary Ann born 1810




Title: Re: name given in the transcription is Mary* Sullcirge
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 31 July 19 15:50 BST (UK)
Quote from: ianafh on Wednesday 31 July 19 12:53 BST (UK)
Gadget, can I ask how and where you found the marriage?

I need to improve my search skills as even with the information you provided I can't find the marriage!

Ian.

It was London Met Archives, Ian.  Ancestry has them online.

Gadget
Title: Re: name given in the transcription is Mary* Sullcirge
Post by: ianafh on Wednesday 31 July 19 17:04 BST (UK)
Thank you all very much.

Ian.