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Title: Martha FRASER’s maiden name is?
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 28 July 19 11:07 BST (UK)
It looks like MACERIL. But that is not anything like any name I can think of. Any suggestions?
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Post by: roopat on Sunday 28 July 19 11:22 BST (UK)
It looks like MACERIL. But that is not anything like any name I can think of. Any suggestions?


Macneil?
Title: Re: Martha FRASER’s maiden name is?
Post by: Pennines on Sunday 28 July 19 12:35 BST (UK)
Looks a bit like Macevil -- but I've never heard of a name like that!
Title: Re: Martha FRASER’s maiden name is?
Post by: Girl Guide on Sunday 28 July 19 12:45 BST (UK)
Have you considered looking for Martha's marriage to presumably a Mr. Frazer?  Do you have enough information to do that?

This looks like a Scotland's People record.   If so you can always request a better copy.
Title: Re: Martha FRASER’s maiden name is?
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 28 July 19 12:52 BST (UK)
Have you considered looking for Martha's marriage to presumably a Mr. Frazer?  Do you have enough information to do that?

This looks like a Scotland's People record.   If so you can always request a better copy.

The rest of the cert is very clear, I don’t  think a request for a better copy is likely to help but I’ll try.

The marriage is what I am trying to find, but the son , Hugh Fraser, whose death certificate this is was born about 1819 possibly in Co. Antrim .  Ireland anyway, and I am  fairly confident it is Northern Ireland.  I don’t know of any other children as I haven’t managed to see a baptism c 1819 for Hugh, let alone any siblings.  I find I am flailing  around with the Irish stuff,    I am thinking this might be in the too hard basket.
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Post by: AMBLY on Sunday 28 July 19 13:04 BST (UK)
Possibly a long shot......but my initial thought was, could it be:

McCrink

My McCrink were from Ballynahatten, Kilkeel, Co. Down (and Hugh was fairly common amongst them too).

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Martha FRASER’s maiden name is?
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 28 July 19 18:55 BST (UK)
McCrink,  I haven’t heard of that name either, however I’ve just run that past my step mother (whose family this is) and she thinks she may have heard it mentioned at some point, 

Thank you all, they are all versions I hadn’t thought of so have a little more direction for my searches,
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Post by: craggagh on Sunday 28 July 19 19:32 BST (UK)
Hello -

I would read that as Macevil, a variant of McEvilly which is not uncommon in County Mayo.

craggagh.
Title: Re: Martha FRASER’s maiden name is?
Post by: Pennines on Sunday 28 July 19 20:05 BST (UK)
I had thought it was Macevil -- but I just couldn't imagine anyone having such a surname.

(Having said that there are at least 2 children on the 1837-1915 birth registers with a forename of Murder --- think it should probably be Murdo!)
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Post by: merryhow on Monday 29 July 19 00:27 BST (UK)

 MacKerrel ?
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Post by: hallmark on Monday 29 July 19 07:49 BST (UK)
Maceril

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Post by: Flattybasher9 on Monday 29 July 19 11:02 BST (UK)
What was the father's name and when was the year and location of death?

Malky
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Post by: mckha489 on Monday 29 July 19 11:23 BST (UK)
What was the father's name and when was the year and location of death?

Malky

The death certificate is for Hugh FRASER  18 Oct 1868 age 50
125 Rose Street Glasgow.
Married to Eliza MARTIN. - I cannot find that marriage, but all the children born Ireland (according to census).  Listed here https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=816254.msg6777575#msg6777575

Father Hugh FRASER, a day labourer

Mother as per snippet.





Title: Re: Martha FRASER’s maiden name is?
Post by: jonwarrn on Monday 29 July 19 11:34 BST (UK)
UHF has a Martha Frazer to Hugh + Eliza (Martin), 1843, Antrim
https://www.ancestryireland.com/family-records/birth-and-baptism-records-county-antrim-and-county-down/
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Post by: Flattybasher9 on Monday 29 July 19 11:42 BST (UK)
Both Scotland's people and FamilySearch have her surname as "Maceril"

Malky
Title: Re: Martha FRASER’s maiden name is?
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 29 July 19 19:35 BST (UK)
UHF has a Martha Frazer to Hugh + Eliza (Martin), 1843, Antrim
https://www.ancestryireland.com/family-records/birth-and-baptism-records-county-antrim-and-county-down/

Ah, I hadn’t found that website. thank you Jon.
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Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 03 August 19 00:47 BST (UK)
Hello -

I would read that as Macevil, a variant of McEvilly which is not uncommon in County Mayo.

craggagh.

Upon reading craggagh's post - I revise my think, and agree, Macevil!

 ;D AMBLY
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Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 03 August 19 07:12 BST (UK)
BUT, whether Maceril or Macevil the only occurrence I can find of that name is a 1784 marriage indexed on FindMyPast as  Macevil and on ancestry as Maceril
Title: Re: Martha FRASER’s maiden name is?
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 09 August 19 04:27 BST (UK)
If it's MacEril you need to allow for variants, here's a few...

MacCarroll
McCarroll
MacKerral
MacKerrall
MacKerril

An Irish accent (which I love) can throw people as 'a' & 'e' can sound very similar depending on which area they're from as well as to the ear of the person recording the info!  ;)

Annie
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Post by: mckha489 on Friday 09 August 19 05:22 BST (UK)
Thank you Annie
I hadn’t thought of 50% of those.
Bad weather forecast for this weekend here so perhaps I’ll find her. One can always hope.
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Post by: shanreagh on Thursday 29 August 19 05:50 BST (UK)
There are Mackrell and variations (MacKrell) in Co Antrim.

In 1850s there is a family Mackrell (James renting from Rev'd O'Neill) living in a parish called Skerry according to Griffiths Valuation. The townland is Carncoagh.   

In 1901 census there  are 11 of that name in Antrim.

I have come across it also in Co Londonderry where I mainly search.