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Title: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: Muffin41 on Monday 22 July 19 14:07 BST (UK)
Can anyone help solve this family mystery?

I have a Robert Dillon born 1852 in Ireland; he married Jane Elizabeth Moger while he was in the army between 1873 and 1874 in Malta. This was an army marriage; details from the Overseas BMD´s online database.
Robert - Surname Dillon
Date of Event 1873 To 1874
Military Service Army Marriage
Volume Page 743
Station Malta, Record Type – Marriage

Robert Dillon was mustered at the Curragh Camp, Ireland between 1 Apr 1871–30 Jun 1871.

Robert Surname Dillon
Regiment 1st Bn 18th (the Royal Irish) Regiment of Foot
Regiment Period 1800's, Army Rank Corporal
Service Number 1574
Muster Date 1st April 1871 - 30th June 1871
Headquarter Location Curragh Camp, Ireland
TNA Reference WO 12/3562
Source 1871 Worldwide Army Index

Notes at Aldershot during April, May and June 1871

Information about Jane Elizabeth Moger, - father Thomas Moger born about 1823 in Stourton, Wiltshire. Death 1908 in Cardiff Wales. I do not know if he was in the army and how his daughter Jane came to marry in Malta, she was born 2q 1852 Marylebone 1a 300

Muffin41

Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: louisa maud on Monday 22 July 19 15:04 BST (UK)
Muffin
I wonder what info you already have, here is the
1861 RG 9; Piece: 1688; Folio: 51; Page: 8;

1871 England Census; Class: RG10; Piece: 2481; Folio: 32; Page: 14;

Both parents on these 2 census

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: Muffin41 on Monday 22 July 19 15:07 BST (UK)
All the info that I had was in my first posting.
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: louisa maud on Monday 22 July 19 15:18 BST (UK)
3 family trees on Ancestry.

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jim1 on Monday 22 July 19 18:28 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help solve this family mystery?
What's the mystery?
Is it Robert's parents?
Do you have his marriage cert?
It's quite possible Jane was in service & went to Malta with her employer.
Some info about the 1st. Batt.

In 1865 the 1st Battalion was ordered home from India. They had served abroad for the best part of 28 years, apart from 6 months in England in 1854. In Feb 1866 Two ships brought home 29 officers, 450 other ranks, 44 women and 72 children. 381 men were voluntarily discharged and remained behind in India. The ships arrived home in June and 2 years later the battalion was in Ireland. In 1871 they were warned that they would soon serve abroad again but it was not until 18th Jan 1872 that they sailed to Malta. They spent 3 years there, with a strength of 26 officers and 606 other ranks.
In 1875 the 1st Battalion sailed from Malta to India.

Robert was born in Ireland hence his choice of Regt.
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jennifer c on Monday 22 July 19 19:37 BST (UK)
Looks like Jane was born 1852 in Marylebone London. With Robert in 1901 living with her parents.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jennifer c on Monday 22 July 19 19:50 BST (UK)
Jane father was a cabinet maker ,in Bath in 1871.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: Muffin41 on Tuesday 23 July 19 10:50 BST (UK)
Thank you all for the new information.
I had not thought of Jane being in service and going to Malta Jim1.

Muffin1
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 23 July 19 12:07 BST (UK)
I can't see them prior to 1901 so he must have done his full service overseas.
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jennifer c on Wednesday 24 July 19 09:14 BST (UK)
Jane’s parents marriage Trinity church Marylebone 3rd October 1847

Thomas Moger full age cabinet maker address Charlotte St father John Moger bailiff

Mary Ann Neil  full age address Charlotte Street father John Neil stable keeper

Witnesses Thos. And Ann Davidson
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: Muffin41 on Wednesday 24 July 19 14:22 BST (UK)
Thank you again for the infomation.

Muffin41
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jennifer c on Wednesday 24 July 19 17:42 BST (UK)
What information are you looking for, is it on both families or just Dillon?

Jennifer
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: Muffin41 on Thursday 25 July 19 10:21 BST (UK)
If possible I would like more information regarding the Dillon family.

Where in Ireland was Robert Dillon born, exact year of marriage and his death. Did they havw any children?

Muffin1
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 25 July 19 11:00 BST (UK)
I couldn't find any children under Consular Births & there are no Dillons born India on the census.
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: Muffin41 on Thursday 25 July 19 13:18 BST (UK)
OK thanks for looking :)
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 25 July 19 14:56 BST (UK)
I think I may have found a child.
Ida Mary Dillon b. 4/10/1877 Bareilly Bengal India.
Parents Robert & Jane.
The 1st. Battalion was stationed in Bareilly 1875-79.
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 25 July 19 16:08 BST (UK)
Jane died in 1903 aged 51 so we cannot even see on the following census if she gave birth to any children

Well done Jim but I wonder what happened to her, Ida Mary Dillon

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 25 July 19 16:32 BST (UK)
Do you think it is possible that Robert took on another woman after 1903, just a thought,

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 25 July 19 16:44 BST (UK)
I see what you're getting at.
It looks like him in 1911.
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 25 July 19 16:47 BST (UK)
A possibility, no marriage found and I cannot find births as yet for the 2 children

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 25 July 19 16:54 BST (UK)
Marriages Dec 1903
DILLON
Robert
Brecknock
11b
186
2 births so far mmn Sanders.
Robert Vernon 1905 & Ena Victoria Ethel 1908
 
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 25 July 19 17:02 BST (UK)
You have just beaten me to it Jim but that is what I have written down, a strong possibility

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 25 July 19 17:07 BST (UK)
I think the OP needs to get the Consular marriage & this one.
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 25 July 19 17:13 BST (UK)
Possible death of Robert Dillon 1912 ?

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 25 July 19 17:17 BST (UK)
Robert Vernon Dillon born 24/12/1904 died 1986 aged 81 Hereford, can't find Ena Victoria as yet

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: Muffin41 on Friday 26 July 19 10:03 BST (UK)
Thank you both for finding more possiblities I will get the Consular marriage and hope that it helps me further.

Muffin1
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: Muffin41 on Friday 26 July 19 10:54 BST (UK)
Found this hint by chance; Civil Marriage for a Ena Victoria E Dillon in 1960 Bromsgrove Worcestershire; not certain if this is the same person.
Her birth 4q 1908 Ross 6a 419, Herefordshire

Muffin41
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jim1 on Friday 26 July 19 11:06 BST (UK)
That's her. Can't see her on the 1939 Register as yet.
The Slane Catholic Registers are online but you will need to search it
manually I can't find a Baptism for Robert in the C of I records.
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 26 July 19 16:07 BST (UK)
If this marriage is the right  one she married Henry G V Milward

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jim1 on Friday 26 July 19 16:22 BST (UK)
Has to be her doesn't it.
I wonder if she married twice.
There's another (as I'm sure you know) in 1943.
Can't see any children for that couple.
Possibly divorced & married again using her maiden name.
Guesswork now.
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 26 July 19 16:23 BST (UK)
Henry G V Milward born 1901
of Henry Tompson Milward and Elsie Townsend Milward
Baptised St Stephens Redditch 11/02/1901
Henry G V died 13/11/1991, there is a will listed but no mention of Ena

Ena Victoria E  Milward born 03/10/1908
died April 2000 aged 91 in Hereford

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jim1 on Friday 26 July 19 16:29 BST (UK)
It doesn't appear she had children so it stops with her.
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: Muffin41 on Saturday 27 July 19 19:36 BST (UK)
Thank you for the update
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: jim1 on Saturday 27 July 19 22:22 BST (UK)
Let us know how you get on.
Title: Re: Dillon and Moger family mystery
Post by: green4side on Sunday 03 November 19 15:57 GMT (UK)
Hi. My grandfather was your Robert Dillon. I have a lot of info. What 'mystery are you trying to solve. Mike