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Title: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Vinwad on Sunday 21 July 19 21:23 BST (UK)
Looking for descendants of my uncle, Michael (Mick)Francis McNamara, and his first wife, Eileen Ruddy.
M. Ballina Cathedral 1941 

I think they had four children;
Two boys
R b.1941
J b.1942
And two girls
M b.1947
J b.1950

I believe Eileen died around 1961.  Mick died in Luton, England in 1975 but is buried in Limerick.

Any help finding my cousins is greatly appreciated.

Vince
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 21 July 19 21:27 BST (UK)
Names of any living people can not be posted.
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Vinwad on Sunday 21 July 19 21:46 BST (UK)
Thanks for the reminder. I've changed it to initials.
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 21 July 19 22:08 BST (UK)
Name   Eileen McNAMARA
Date of Death   1961
Group Registration ID   2927224
SR District/Reg Area   Ballina
Deceased Age at Death   39

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1961/04318/4114071.pdf
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 21 July 19 22:11 BST (UK)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 21 July 19 22:34 BST (UK)
Eileen's death notice says English, American and Scottish papers please copy, so there must be family in each place. No names just deeply regretted by her mother and family.
Leigue cemetery.
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: heywood on Sunday 21 July 19 22:44 BST (UK)
http://goldenlangan.com/graves-le.html. See number 3126

This seems likely to be Eileen - buried in her family grave -Ruddy
The date is transcribed as 1960 but looks like 1961
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 21 July 19 22:55 BST (UK)
Mother Margaret's death notice the same as Eileen's, no names and English, American and Scottish papers please copy.
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 21 July 19 22:58 BST (UK)
http://goldenlangan.com/graves-le.html. See number 3126

This seems likely to be Eileen - buried in her family grave -Ruddy
The date is transcribed as 1960 but looks like 1961

I agree  23 Aug   as per Cert
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 21 July 19 23:01 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 21 July 19 23:07 BST (UK)
The headstone clearly wasn't put up until some time after the mother died so it's quite possible they got the year incorrect for Eileen.
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 21 July 19 23:15 BST (UK)
Just a transcription error.
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 21 July 19 23:27 BST (UK)
Same transcription error on Find a Grave so, you would need to touch the numbers on the stone to be sure
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: hallmark on Monday 22 July 19 05:21 BST (UK)
David checked and has rectified the mistranscription.
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Vinwad on Monday 22 July 19 18:47 BST (UK)
Many thanks to everyone for their efforts so far - it is really appreciated.

I have copies of the marriage and death certs for Eileen but this is the first time I've seen the headstone so that's helpful.

I still can't find any links to the children who would have of course been McNamara.  I've tried LDS/Ancestry/Find My Past but apart from confirming that Mick and Eileen had four children there is nothing more. Any suggestions?

Vince
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: hallmark on Monday 22 July 19 18:50 BST (UK)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: hallmark on Monday 22 July 19 18:53 BST (UK)
In first post you say you believe Eileen died around 1961... If you had Cert, better to say so. Saves people using time looking for what you already had.

What other stuff do you have?
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Vinwad on Monday 22 July 19 19:04 BST (UK)
Hi, just to clarify my first post - I'm looking for descendants of Mick and Eileen. Only info I have is that there four of them, two boys;
R b.1941
J b.1942
And two girls
M b.1947
J b.1950

Given their ages some may have passed on and/or have been married but I can't find anything.
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Sinann on Monday 22 July 19 19:11 BST (UK)
They are too recent for online records, which is why I went looking for death notices as they sometimes give info on children, but no joy this time.
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Vinwad on Monday 22 July 19 19:20 BST (UK)
Thanks Sinann.

Immensely grateful to you for trying.
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Sinann on Monday 22 July 19 19:44 BST (UK)
You need someone local to the area, if it was my area I'd say contact the village diary and local people would see it and help out if they could, I have a guy calling in to me next month who I was able to help in this way but I don't know the area you are searching so have no idea who you could make contact with or if there is any online site you could contact to help you out.

Perhaps you could ask here
https://www.ouririshheritage.org/content/category/archive/people/mayo_genealogy_group
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: heywood on Monday 22 July 19 19:47 BST (UK)
You say that Michael remarried.
Was there family contact with him after that that you could check.
Is there an obituary or newspaper announcement for him which might mention his children?
Do you know if the children stayed in Ballina or moved with their father?

Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Vinwad on Monday 22 July 19 20:10 BST (UK)
I'm in close touch with Michael's second family but they are as much in the dark as I am. 

There doesn't appear to have been any contact following separation and the children stayed with their mother although 'R', the eldest of Michael's and Eileen's children, apparently attended Michael's funeral held in Limerick in 1975.

Good idea to check obituaries; I didn't stop to think that his Ballina family might have posted something so I'll follow that path and see where it gets me.
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Owenwee on Sunday 28 July 19 16:06 BST (UK)
I have sent you a PM 
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Vinwad on Thursday 01 August 19 19:31 BST (UK)
Eileen's death notice says English, American and Scottish papers please copy, so there must be family in each place. No names just deeply regretted by her mother and family.
Leigue cemetery.

Hi Sinann,

Can you tell me where you saw the death notice published?

Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 01 August 19 20:05 BST (UK)
"....Michael (Mick)Francis McNamara, and his first wife, Eileen Ruddy  had four children;
Two boys
R b.1941
J b.1942
And two girls
M b.1947
J b.1950....."


So what does the 'b'  stand for?
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: heywood on Thursday 01 August 19 20:08 BST (UK)
born   ;)
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Vinwad on Thursday 01 August 19 20:13 BST (UK)
Thanks Heywood, you just beat me to the reply - yes 'b' is for 'born'.
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 01 August 19 20:34 BST (UK)
Simple!   ;D
Title: Re: McNamara - Ruddy of Ballina
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 01 August 19 20:37 BST (UK)
Eileen's death notice says English, American and Scottish papers please copy, so there must be family in each place. No names just deeply regretted by her mother and family.
Leigue cemetery.

Hi Sinann,

Can you tell me where you saw the death notice published?


Irish Press, Thursday Aug 24 1961 page 2 (Irish Newspapers Archives)