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Title: Leggett family East London
Post by: STAN54 on Friday 19 July 19 18:13 BST (UK)
Can anyone help me find information on this 'Leggett' family.

The family l believe lived in the Bethnal Green area and all died in the underground tragedy in March 1943.

They are named on the Bethnal Green memorial near the underground station which I have been supporting for some years. The secretary of the Bethnal Green Memorial Trust would like to find relatives of the family.

http://stairwaytoheavenmemorial.org/


The family were:

Benjamin Leggett aged 33,
Rose Leggett aged 31,
And Roy Leggett aged 7.

Thanks for looking at my post.


Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: PaulineJ on Friday 19 July 19 18:18 BST (UK)
We won't be able to help locate the still-living. Site Policy.

Free index on the 1939 reveals at a single address

Benjamin +
Ernest M    Leggett   1914
Rose M G   Leggett   1910
Livinid M   Leggett   1906

Don't know where Roy was...   

Birth indexes:
Births Dec 1931  Leggett    (girl's name)    Gable    Stepney    1c   172    
Births Sep 1935  Leggett    Roy B    Gable    Bethnal G.    1c   87   

Marriages Mar 1931   (>99%)
Gable    Rose M    Leggett    Bethnal G.    1c   209   
Leggett    Benjamin G    Gable    Bethnal G.    1c   209
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 19 July 19 18:39 BST (UK)
Is this the same Benjamin?

Benjamin George Leggett of 16 Bandon Road Bethnal Green died  3rd March 1943
Tube Shelter Roman Road  Bethnal Green
 Administration Llandudno  18  Nov 1943 to Lavinia Martha Leggett widow & Ernest James Leggett railway platelayer

Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 19 July 19 18:49 BST (UK)
Hi Benjamin G Leggett married Rose M Gable March qtr 1931 Bethnal Green, two children prior to 1939 including a Roy B Leggett Sept qtr 1935 mmn Gable
Keyboard86

 ;D Someone has modified a post!
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 19 July 19 18:50 BST (UK)
Benjamin George had a brother

William John Leggett
Birth Date:   20 May 1907
Baptism Date:   26 Jun 1907
Baptism Place:   St James The Less, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, England
Father:   Benjamin Leggett
Mother:   Lavinia Martha Leggett

It looks as if he died

William John Leggett
Death Age:   80
Birth Date:   30 May 1907
Registration Date:   Sep 1987
Registration district:   Hastings and Rother
Inferred County:   East Sussex
Volume:   18 yPage:   874
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 19 July 19 18:57 BST (UK)
UK, WWII Civilian Deaths, 1939-1945
Roy Benjamin Leggett age 7
abt 1936   3 Mar 1943   Bethnal Green, London son of Benjamin George, Rose Maud   
Parents also listed address 16 Bandon Road
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 19 July 19 19:06 BST (UK)
Benjamin George Leggett’s brother died 1953

Ernest  J LEGGETT
Birth year   1914
Age   39
Death quarter   4 Death year   1953
District   Bethnal Green Volume   5C Page   131
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 19 July 19 19:22 BST (UK)
Births Dec 1931  Leggett    (girl's name)    Gable    Stepney    1c   172    
Y

Marriages Mar 1931   (>99%)
Gable    Rose M    Leggett    Bethnal G.    1c   209   
Leggett    Benjamin G    Gable    Bethnal G.    1c   209

Did their daughter go to New Zealand ?

J Leggett Birth 15 9 1931
Marital status   S
Address 19 Somerville Road New Cross SE 14 (she’s at that address 1953/54 on London ER)
Occupation   HOFFMAN PRESSER
Departure year   1956
Departure day   8
Departure month   8
Departure port   Glasgow
Destination port   New Zealand
Destination   NEW ZEALAND

J L Leggett, spinster
Electoral Year:   1957
District:   Wellington Central
Region or Province:   Wellington
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 19 July 19 19:27 BST (UK)
Lavinia Leggett from the probate registry was Benjamin's mother. she's listed on  WW1 pension service lists but can;t find her husband's death

A tree on Ancestry has a daughter listed for Benjamin and Rose who emigrated to New Zealand, married, had children and died in 1992
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 19 July 19 19:42 BST (UK)
A tree on Ancestry has a daughter listed for Benjamin and Rose who emigrated to New Zealand, married, had children and died in 1992

I did wonder if she’d married as I’d found a 1992 death for J L Burgess on findagrave and P A & J L Burgess on NZ Electoral register

Edit - STAN54 - it maybe worth contacting the tree owner (her surname is Leggett)
as there are 6 persons whose names are marked as private
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: STAN54 on Saturday 20 July 19 18:08 BST (UK)
Hello all, many thanks for your replies and the information sourced. I'm just now waiting to hear back from Sandra to see if any of this helps. Ladyhawk, it is most probable that the family came from Bandon Road.

Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Saturday 20 July 19 19:12 BST (UK)
I am interested in Leggetts, especially with Suffolk origins. My grandfather had a sister, Lavinia Leggett, b Hartlepool 1892.  I welcome any correspondence on the subject. Was she a Leggett by birth or marriage?

Martin
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 20 July 19 20:05 BST (UK)
I am interested in Leggetts, especially with Suffolk origins.

My grandfather had a sister, Lavinia Leggett, b Hartlepool 1892.

 I welcome any correspondence on the subject. Was she a Leggett by birth or marriage?



Posting this info not duplicated re: Leggetts
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=804649.0

There is a public tree on Ancestry with b/c of
Lavinia Adamson Leggett born 13th April 1892
Father George  Leggett occ fish dealer
Mother Jane Leggett  late Thompson formerly Adamson
Mother informant address 91 Mill End Road Westhoe

Lavinia AdamsonLeggett
Baptism date   18 May 1892
Residence   South Shields, Durham, England
Father George Leggett
Mother Jane




Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Saturday 20 July 19 20:35 BST (UK)
Yes, that's my lot, and my original thread. The tree belongs to my half-first cousin. I'm always very interested in anything new, especially about the father, George, b Corton, 1837, of both Lavinia and my grandfather, and their 4 and a half siblings.

Martin
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: STAN54 on Sunday 21 July 19 10:29 BST (UK)
Hello all, having heard back form Sandra it would seem that some of you have been on the right track. A son a daughter in law from New Zealand have been traced - other people have been on the case no doubt. They will be shown this thread on here.

Thank you for contributing and helping with this. If anyone is interested in another challenge I had this in the same e-mail from Sandra this morning which I've cut and pasted:


'Do you know the lady we call ‘baby Margaret’? Margaret McKay was the youngest survivor at 6 months old and her mother Ellen Ridgway (no ‘e’ in the middle) died in the disaster holding baby Margaret above her head to save her. Margaret comes to our Memorial Services every year and has never been able to find anyone related to her mother. Her father remarried and never told her until she was 16 that her real mother had died. She would really love to find anyone that was related to Ellen, but has always drawn a blank. Maybe the Rootchat people could help?'


(I've asked for more information if she has any to send it and I'll update accordingly.
Thanks to all again for helping with the first request).

Stan54.


Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 21 July 19 12:42 BST (UK)
RIDGWAY, ELLEN
Died 03/03/1943
Aged 28
Civilian War Dead
of 24 Brierly Street. Wife of Spr. G. Ridgway, R.E. in Tube Shelter accident.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3125520/ridgway,-ellen/

Possible marriage:

Marriages Dec 1934 

EDWARDS,    Ellen J   
RIDGWAY,    George
Bethnal G.    1c   319

I can see what may be the birth of the lady you mentioned in 1942.  In 1939 they have no other children with them.

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

If she knows her father's date of birth you can check it against the 1939 register to see if it is the right couple.  I assume she has obtained a copy of her birth certificate at some stage and knows her mother's maiden surname.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 21 July 19 13:31 BST (UK)
This birth appears to tick all the boxes:

EDWARDS, ELLEN  JANE
Mother's maiden surname: REDDING     
GRO Reference: 1914  S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 339

Possible marriage of parents:

Marriages Jun 1914

EDWARDS, Alfred       
REDDING,    Ellen M (should be Ellen N)
Bethnal G.    1c   309

From the marriage register, they are both aged 22, Alfred is a news vendor of 13 Camden Street, father Archibald a hawker (deceased).  Ellen Norah is a box maker of 19 Camden Street, father John a bricklayer.

It looks like Ellen Jane may have been Alfred and Ellen's only surviving child which may be why your lady has not been able to find anyone related to her mother.  You would need to go back one more generation and then try to come forward with Alfred and Ellen's siblings.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 22 July 19 20:09 BST (UK)
George & Ellen Jane Ridgway
Year:   1939
County or Borough:   Tower Hamlets
Ward or Division/Constituency:   Bethnal Green
Street address:   89 Canrobert Street

Ellen Jane Ridgway of 24 Brierley Street Bethnal Green (wife of George) died
died 3 Mar 1943 at the tube shelter Roman Road Bethnal Green
Administration 20 Sep 1945 too said George sapper H.M. Army

Ellen Ridgway died 3 Mar 1943
Cemetery:   Manor Park Cemetery and Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place:   Forest Gate, London Borough of Newham, Greater London
PLOT   Square 146 D Grave 427

This birth appears to tick all the boxes:

EDWARDS, ELLEN  JANE
Mother's maiden surname: REDDING     
GRO Reference: 1914  S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 339

Possible marriage of parents:

Marriages Jun 1914

EDWARDS, Alfred       
REDDING,    Ellen M (should be Ellen N)
Bethnal G.    1c   309

From the marriage register, they are both aged 22,

Alfred is a news vendor of 13 Camden Street, father Archibald a hawker (deceased). 
Ellen Norah is a box maker of 19 Camden Street, father John a bricklayer.


Ellen Jane Edwards born 21 Jun 1914
Baptism 12 Jul 1914 St Jude, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets
Father:   Alfred Edwards occ news vendor Mother:   Ellen Norah , abode 19 Camden Street

Amy Alice Edwards  born 10 Mar 1917
Baptism 8 Apr 1917 St Jude, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, England
Father:   Alfred Edwards  occ dock labourer Mother:   Nellie Nora abode 25 Camden Street

birth
Edwards    Amy A   mn Redding    1917 Bethnal G.    1c   235

death
Edwards    Amy A   age  1            1918  Bethnal G    1c   256
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: STAN54 on Saturday 27 July 19 11:19 BST (UK)
Thanks for all your help and apologies for the delay in writing back on here.

It does appear that we need to go back to look for siblings of Alfred Edwards and Ellen Norah Redding and their descendants.
I’ve received the following information
1901 census shows a John and Emma Reddin with children Nellie N, Amy B, Mirian A and Sydney D 
1911 census shows a John and Emma Redding living at 7 Cambridge Buildings with children Nellie, Amy, Miriam and Sidney all born in Whitechapel.
It is believed that Ellen was known as Nellie.
It is possible that Ellen Norah’s siblings are:
Amy Beatrice Reddin born 1895 Bethnal Green.  Mother Jones
Miriam Ada Reddin born 1898 Bethnal Green.  Mother Jones
Sydney Donald Reddin born 1900 Bethnal Green.  Mother Jones
Although the surname is spelt differently it matches the 1901 census mentioned above.   If these are correct then Ellen Norah could be Nellie Norah Reddin born 1891 Mile End Old Town.
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 27 July 19 18:35 BST (UK)
Don't know if any of this might help

John & Emma had 9 children 3 have died by 1911

1891 census
St Peters Road, Mile End Old Town, London & Middlesex
John Reddin   31 bricklayer
Emma M Reddin   28
John M Reddin (john Michael)   7
Fred’k H Reddin   5
Alec Rob't Reddin   1
Nell Reddin   1/12

Catholic Baptisms at  St Anne Tower Hamlets

Joannes Michael   Reddin   
Parish   Underwood Road
Mother Anna Maria JONES
Father Joannis Reddin
Birth date   22 Jun 1883
Baptism date   15 Jul 1883

Fredericus Reddin
Parish   Underwood Road
Mother Emma JONES
Father Joannis Reddin
Birth date   27 Dec 1885
Baptism date   17 Jan 1886

Gulielmus Eduardus Redding
Parish   Underwood Road
Mother Emma Maria JONES
Father Joannis Redding
Birth date   17 Oct 1887
Baptism date   13 Nov 1887

Alexander Robertus Reddin   
Parish   Underwood Road   
Mother Emma Maria JONES
Father Joannis Reddin
Birth date   30 Jul 1889
Baptism date   21 Aug 1889

Nellie Norah Rearden   
Parish   Underwood Road
Mother Emma JONES
Father John Rearden
Birth date   12 Mar 1891
Baptism date   08 Apr 1891

Charles Victor   Reddin
Parish   Underwood Road
Mother Emma May JONES
Father    John Reddin
Birth date   13 Feb 1893
Baptism date   08 Mar 1893

Amata Beatrix Reddin      
Parish   Underwood Road      
Mother Mariae JONES
Father   Joannis Reddin
Birth date   19 May 1895
Baptism date   05 Jun 1895

Miriam Ada Reddin   
Parish   Underwood Road
Mother Ellen Mary JONES
Father John Reddin
Birth date   13 Mar 1898
Baptism date   27 Apr 1898

Sydney Donald   Redding
Parish   Underwood Road
Mother Emma Mary JONES
Father John Redding
Birth date   01 Mar 1900
Baptism date   18 Apr 1900

John Michael 1883 Mile End

Frederick Harry 1886 Mile End
Frederick Henry Redding Birth 27 12 1885 Death year   1971 Merton Surrey

William Edward 1887 Mile End - died age 2 (1890 Stepney)

Alec Robert 1889 Mile End - died age 2 (1891 Mile End)

Nellie Norah 1891 Mile End - married Alfred Edwards 1914 Bethnal Green,
2 children E J 1914 Bethnal Green , Amy Alice b 1917 died 1918

Charles Victor 1893 Mile End - died age 4 (1897 Whitechapel)

Amy Beatrice 1895 Bethnal Green = married 1914 AG Fowell she died 1916
one son A C Fowell 1914 Bethnal Green, baptism his Middle name Charles  born 18 May 1914
 he may have married 1938 Portsmouth (Baseley) and died Portsmouth 2000, there are a number of births in Portsmouth - see FreeBMD

Miriam Ada 1898 Bethnal Green possibly died age 27, Sep 1925 Whitechapel
= married 16th August 1924 F H Norman,
child M H Sep 1925 Bethnal Green, possible marriage 1951 (Sullivan) in Edmonton, possible child 1951 Edmonton - see FreeBMD

Sydney Donald 1900 Bethnal Green = possibly married 1926 Brown,
one son S F 1926 Bethnal Green
Title: Re: Leggett family East London
Post by: STAN54 on Wednesday 31 July 19 11:56 BST (UK)
Thanks for all the information on Ellen Norah Redding’s siblings and some of there descendants, lots for them to work from. I’ve passed this onto Sandra.