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Robert Cooper, b 1809 Staffordshire died 1898 in Australia, he married Hannah Fisher b 1815 Tipton d 1880. Wanting to know of his family.
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Hiya Waikiwi
Welcome to RootsChat bit short on data there - when and where did he marry Hannah? if it was after 1837 we might find his fathers name also where have you got Hannah's maiden name from to see if we can dig up some further clues
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Robert Cooper , widower, full age , green grocer , father Robert Cooper husbandman
Hannah Thompson, widow , full age , father Edward Fisher blacksmith
12 July 1847 St Peter and St Pauls Aston
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Nice one Christine
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Thanks for your prompt reply. I haven’t any idea about the marriage date, from what I have is they had a son, my 2nd Gt Grandfather Henry Cooper b 1837 d 1914 in Orepuki, New Zealand, no idea of any other family. Henry married Ann Harper b1834 and she died in Orepuki, NZ in 1900. Henry and Ann immigrated to New Zealand on the Lancashire Witch in 1876. With their three children Elizabeth, Mary Ann and my Grandfather George Cooper.
I believe Robert Cooper travelled either to New Zealand and Australia on The Lady Jocelyn. There seems to be another son of Roberts called Edward b 1850.
I cannot find anything about Elizabeth and Mary Ann, just wondering if the travelled back to England. Thank you.
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An 1898 NSW death gives following:
Robert Cooper
no age given
died 1898 Waratah
father Robert
mother Sarah
Reg No 11767
Nothing found yet to link this Robert with Robert married 1847.
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To make it easier here's the 1851 census Great Barr Staffordshire
Robert Cooper head c1812 West Bromwich Gardener
Hannah Cooper wife c 1816 Tipton
John Cooper son 20 Agricultural labourer
James Cooper son 18 Agricultural labourer
Mary A Cooper dau 16
Henry Cooper son 12
Sarah Cooper dau 8
Catherine Cooper dau 2
Edward Cooper son 1
kids all born West Bromwich
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Roberts first wife was called Elizabeth
baptism 13.10.1839 Henry Cooper West Bromwich parents Robert & Elizabeth
Robert Cooper baptised All Saints West Bromwich 24.3.1811 parents Robert and Anne
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1841 Upper Lane West Bromwich
Robert Cooper 25 moulder
Elizabeth Cooper 30
John Cooper 9
James Cooper 7
Mary Cooper 3
Henry Cooper 1
William Cooper 1m
all born in county
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Elizabeths maiden name was Carley
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Thank you for all the information. Wonderful.
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Hello
Let's start with that marriage.
It's at St Peter and St Pauls Aston 12 July 1847
Robert Cooper full age widower green gorcer Erdington Robert Cooper husbandman
Hannah Thompson full age widow Erdington Edward Fisher blacksmith
both madea cross and witnesses were William Fisher and aMatilda Lowe who also signed with a cross.
The 1851 census seems to give them in Great Barr
Robert Cooper 39 Gardener West Bromwich
Hannah 35 Tipton
John 20 son Ag lab West Browmich
James 18 ag lab West Bromwich
Mary A 16
Henry 12
Sarah 8
Catherine 2
Edward 1
They are at Barr Beacon next door to Aldridge Lodge.It is a mainly agricultural area.
1861 Walsall wood Road
Rogert Cooper 48 General lab West Bromwich
Hannah 46 Tipton
Catherine 15 West Browmich
Edward 11 brickyard lab
George 9 same
By 1871 they are at Clayhanger with the two boys who are now coal miners.This is also in Walsall wood and much more industrial at the time although now it is a Nature reserve.
It looks like Robert was baptised at West Bromwich 24 Mar 1811 s of Robert and Anne Cooper.
His first marriage is also at Aston 8.11.1830 to Elizabeth Oakley witnesses James and Martha Oakley.
In 1841 they are at West Browmwich at Upper Square
Robert 25 moulder? yes born Staffordshire
Elizabeth 30 y
John 9 y
James 7 y
Mary 5 y
Henry 1 y
William 1 month y
Possible burial for Elizabeth at st Martin's Birmingham 11.3.1846 age 37 years Coventry St.
But their youngest child Harriet was baptised at West Brom All Saints 19.4.1846 of Charlemont moulder.
Hannah fisher bapt St Martin's Tipton 29 May 1814 d of Edwaed and Mary whitesmith Owen St
It looks like she married George Vernon Thompson at West Bromwich 25 Feb 1834 wit Edward Fisher and William Barton.Both of them are of Tipton
Son James 7 June 1835 bapt St Martin Tipton Owen St hair dresser
Daughter Mary 8 sep 1839 same
1841 Dudley Port
Edward Fisher 55 whitesmith y
Mary 60 y
John 25 same y
Matilda 15 y
Joseph 20 same y
Hannah Thomapson 25 y
Mary 1 y
Levi Lowe 15 whitesmith no not born Staffordshire
Not seeing any records of the families journey to Australia of their deaths.
Sorry to duplicate but I was typing
Ciderdrinker
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No problem - now there are the following possible siblings for Robert all baptised West Bromwich
Ann - 6.11.1786
Catherine - 4.11.1793
Elizabeth - 30.5.1803
George - 3.11.1800
Jane - 17.11.1805
John - 6.6.1797
Mary 2.1.1792
Sarah - 13.4.1789
William - 10.7.1808
Possible marriage 11.4. 1786 West Bromwich Robert Cooper to Ann Birch
burial West Bromwich 11.2.1826 Robert Cooper aged 65 (c1761)
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