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General => Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing => Topic started by: Murrell on Wednesday 17 July 19 19:04 BST (UK)
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Well l struggled for sometime on which company l should do the DNA with. Which type should l go for a minefield but hoorah myancestry offered a free kit if they considered you worthy lo!. I said I'm looking for my brother who through normal channels have failed to find.
Anyway they said a kit was winging its way to me- it arrived l did it buds in the cheek either side then off it went to USA.
Have to wait a few weeks for the results, but l haven't deluded myself that it will be anything other that a basic kit to lure me in. I see that Ancestry hold the biggest store.
So what am l asking well 1st will l be able to make sense of what they send me and 2nd should l pay to do an Ancestry one to cover my odds.
Any support welcome especially folk who have done DNA with myheritage.
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Do you mean MyHeritage sent you a free kit? If so, good for you ;) Just a personal opinion, but I'd wait to see what it turns up, and then move on to Ancestry if you don't find anything.
You should be able to make sense of MH. If it's a full sibling you're after, you'll be looking for a match that's c. 3,500 cM and this should be at the top of the list. Not sure if there's such a thing as a basic MH kit but, if they don't give you all the tools, you can unlock them for a one-off fee of £35 inc VAT.
Good luck!
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If you are looking for a brother and he does not turn up in your results from MyHeritage then you should get your DNA out onto as many sites as possible. You will be able to upload your MyHeritage result to FTDNA, gedmatch and LivingDNA. The other major sites, AncestryDNA and 23andme, do not accept uploads so you would need to buy kits for them.
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Many thanks for both of your replies.
Yes l have been given a kit at no cost.
I'm so excited only found out about my brother two years ago.
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I'm not sure if it is genuine pro bono or just clever marketing but 15 months ago MyHeritage offered 15000 free tests for people with adoption mysteries and I got one of them. I Have Nothing But praise for them as it has been really helpful. I think they are trying to increase their profile, especially in the UK market.
The test confirmed a lot of things that I believed to be true, and also gave me lots of clues to investigate for the future.
Martin
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Hi Martin
Your experience sounds interesting - yes as you say the company probably see the free kits leading to more people buying from them. I see you can buy premium so assuming my kit and what it offers is a lesser version.
I will have to wait and see but nothing ventured nothing gained.
I will post follow up details of my outcome. Thank you very much for your support
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I am assuming that the free kit will be autosomal DNA, one of the most common types of DNA testing these days.
You should get the full autosomal package included without paying any extra, I would have thought. Martin should be able to confirm.
'Premium' refers to subscription package, which will enable you to attach a large family tree to your results, access their record sets, etc.
https://faq.myheritage.com/en/article/what-do-i-get-with-a-myheritage-premium-subscription
However, I have a large tree there uploaded by gedcom, which exceeds their limits. It has sat there for nearly two years now with the occasional reminder to upgrade.
Happy hunting!
Regards Margaret
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I think you are sounding a little ungrateful and overly suspicious about the free kit MyHeritage gave you.
This kit will give you a list of matches. You may have as many as 6,000 matches. If your brother has tested with MyHeritage or uploaded to MyHeritage from elsewhere he will be on the first page.
I've uploaded a few kits to MyHeritage and it's very clear what you get for your money. If you are looking for a brother he will be obvious - no need to subscribe or purchase any add-ons, not even the chromosome browser.
I've only uploaded kits to MyHeritage. They're 'unlocked' so I can see the chromosome browser. I don't need to access MyHeritage records because I already have many records from elsewhere.
If in the future you would like to use your DNA to take your tree back further or make sense of your relationship with other matches then you might want to unlock the various features that MyHeritage offers, but that is your choice.
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Different people test with different sites so if you are looking for someone specific you should get your DNA out onto as many sites as possible. Your MyHeritage kit can give you many useful matches. You can also upload from there to FTDNA, LivingDNA and gedmatch to widen the net. AncestryDNA and 23andme do not accept uploads so you would need to buy kits with them if you want to have access to their databases. I do most of my DNA research on AncestryDNA, but keep an eye on my match lists on the other sites too. This pays off. Yesterday I found a previously unknown half-sister for one of my Canadian cousins because this person matched me on 23andme. We are now in the process of transferring her results to MyHeritage where I can do a direct analysis to her half sister and Dad who I have previously tested on AncestryDNA. For best results you need to be flexible in which sites you use.
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Any support welcome especially folk who have done DNA with myheritage.
I had a DNA-test done by MyHeritage and while waiting for the results also paid for a search of their almost 10 billion documents. The DNA came back with ca. 70% English (not British), 22% Scandinavian/Finnish and 8% Iberien (Spain-Portugal). They also found more than 5.300 possible "cousins", half of which are in the US.
My grandparents were half Scots / half English with both families (as of now and still searching) going back to the late 1700s. As of 1780 we have had neither Scandinavian/Finnish nor Iberian influence and the mass of dozens of family members in Scotland doesn't even appear in the results. Neither did anybody emigrate to the US, only 1 cousin to Canada. The whole thing is a complete failure, can not be used for further study and is an absolute waste of money. Explanation from MyHeriatge: the connections to these countries probably come from Roman and Viking invadors; the Scots disappear due to intermarriage with the English (but they didn't). What does this company think I am - an American tourist trying to impress the locals back home?
Then we come to the "seek and search" function. Despite trying everything offered, I couldn't find anybody in Scotland at all, although they are very much there (for example in the census of 1881 with 12 members and 3 servants in the house). In the meantime friendly helpers here have gone to a lot of trouble to assist me, even to visiting the grave of my g-g-grandfather in 1850 and taking photos. The names of the entire Scots family are included in the censuses of 1881, 1891 etc. Another entry from the 1911 census in England reveals my grandparents and my father in London, leaving for Australia. MyHeriatge can't find anything, has no Scots censuses in their files and is absolutely useless.
Worse still is the "search" function which doesn't work - despite putting in complete details of my grandmother (and later many other relatives) to include exact dates of places for birth and death, complete name, husband and child with details etc, the result in a general search (allowing for slight differences) was 32.000; the "exact" search with all details taken in to consideration was "0", not found. Explanation from MyHeritage: customers don't really want an exact search! If one goes further and searches amongst the 32.000 connections, one finds a motley collection of completely different names, different dates of birth and death (sometimes 100 years apart, different children and siblings etc.) And included are interresting connections back to the American Civil War when no-one had even left Great Britain (for Australia)!
So just keep away from MyHeritage, I'm completely disgusted and they should be charged for fraud.
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Lionel-W, Findmypast have transcriptions of Scottish census records, but if you want to see images the only site to use is Scotlandspeople.
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Lionel,
Try and look at it this way. My parents both came from the same town. Their parents, i.e. my four grandparents, all came from that same town as well. When I started my research I was sure that I had solid ancestry in that one area. Once I started going further back I found that none of my earlier ancestors came from that town and in fact not even from that part of the country. It just depends how far you go back. In the same way that I referred to towns and counties, the same applies to countries, or even continents.
I had my DNA analysed by MyHeritage and I have found them exemplary.
Re ethnicity tests in general, there are not enough reference populations available at present to give meaningful results. The companies don't make that clear, but basic research will show you that. I don't think you fully understood what you were paying for.
Martin
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Lionel, your matches, or lack of results where you expect them to be, will probably be as a result of none of your living closest relatives in Scotland or England, having taken a DNA test, or they may have taken one with another company.
Loads of Americans take DNA tests, hence the large number of Americans in your matches.
Just because you can’t find the connection to your family does not mean there is not one - you just haven’t found it yet.
Keep in kind too that illegitimacy was common.
Check the females marrying into your male lines. I find that surnames I don’t recognise often come through the female line, perhaps a sister of one of your direct ancestors who you may not even have included in your tree.
I have found My Heritage excellent and easy to use.
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Lionel,
Try and look at it this way. My parents both came from the same town. Their parents, i.e. my four grandparents, all came from that same town as well. When I started my research I was sure that I had solid ancestry in that one area.
Martin
Hi!
Thanks for your comment - however, without any great help from MH on either the Scots or the English side of the family, we are now back to the late 1700s and nothing in the DNA results show any 20% connection to Scandinavia, Finnland or Iberia - and Scotland is missing completely although there must be hundreds of unknown cousins, 10th removed, up there. If I misread the MH advertisments (which I doubt I did) then I was intentionally given misleading information. And that especially applies to their "data search". That I certainly did not misunderstand.
Lionel
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Lionel, your matches, or lack of results where you expect them to be, will probably be as a result of none of your living closest relatives in Scotland or England, having taken a DNA test ...
Hi - and thank you for your comments.
However your logic is a bit off base. Based on the assumption that nobody in the family has taken a DNA test and this accounts for lack of feed-back, then where does the other 20% false information come from. Of course nobody in Scandinavia, Finnland or Iberia has done these comparison tests either and the complete result, including Scotland, should be zero. And what do the Americans have to do with it if none of our family emigrated there. We can now go back to the late 1700s on both the 50% Scots / English sides and nothing ties up. So as you see, we have found the connections in the last weeks, but no thanks to MH.
But let's look at the "search and find" function. All the censuses of note in Scotland are missing, although there, and nothing shows on the 1911 English census that my father with his parents was in London. So, as you will see from the included screen shot, MH came up with only 1 "exact" search result for my father, after having ignored every bit of information I'd put in. And this is just one example of many which I sent to MH requiring an answer. This is just disgusting and I'd have more success with Google.
Lionel
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The censuses for Scotland are on Scotlandspeople as I mentioned earlier. MyHeritage only have record sets that they have purchased the rights to publish. If you want to view Scottish censuses then you need to use a site that has the appropriate rights.
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Lionel, the DNA data will help you find most recent common ancestors who have descendants in those coutries. I recently started conversations with a group of 6 people with whom I matched DNA. Two of the six who I selected to contact had ancestry in Eire, as I probably do too. I am not aware of any Irish ancestry but I have an open mind and believe the results. Two of the six are very closely related, and I am so pleased that it was me who put them in touch.
As I said before ethnicity is a limited aspect of DNA testing, but if the facts say that there are specific people in your ancestry, you will one day find it to be true. Some ancestor of my paternal grandmother has Irish connections. It might puzzle me, but I accept the facts.
Martin
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I do think ancient dna can persist, as in your Finnish or Iberian. My dna, tested with Ancestry, shows 76 % British, 19% Scots/Irish ( definitely accurate by my family tree to date) and 5% Germanic. I can’t find any Germanic ancestry but my mother’s family all hail from East Anglia and I am happy to believe that until industrialisation the population was pretty static hence some Anglo Saxon Germanic dna persists through a small pool population.
Jo
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I forgot to add that although my ethnicity is suggested, and I use the word carefully, suggested as being almost totally British, I do have 9% that is described as Albanian or east Mediterranean. I have no such record of anything similar in my research so far, and no facial traits common to that area, but I do accept that something caused this to be reported. You can't deny the data. I doubt many of my ancestors strayed more than a few miles from their place of birth, and almost inevitably didn't leave the county. But perhaps somebody from elsewhere met one of my female ancestors, very briefly.
Martin
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Wow lv got the ball rolling on this DNA topic.
1st Hurwoth l am so excited to have been given this kit and must have given the wrong impression to make you think that l was ungrateful.
Yes a little suspicious as freebies don't come to me often.
My husband was going to buy me a DNA but l wasn't sure what l should go for. Once l get this l can then invest further
Lionel l am open minded and l do thank you for your comments, I'm a little worried as all my folk including the elusive brother are Irish- but l keep saying to My husband what if there is an obscure country lm contacted to! You hit my worry on the head.
Mart'n'Al You made me feel all would be good in the end.
Of course the Americans are all sorted with ancestors and love that kind of think, which l do too. I live in hopes l find my Brother who l knew nothing about 2years ago. If l don't find him directly he may have a son of daughter who is into family history.🙏
Oh just before l forget Who do you think you are is back on BB1 this week. ☺ Kathleen
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Somebody gave me a 23andme test which I did and uploaded the results to myheritage which has been fun and enlightening but done nothing to help me grow my tree. Myheritage offers very little without payment. I am able to extrapolate some usuable info but I decided to do the Ancestry test also. I am expecting my results in the next week and I have a large tree based at Ancestry so I am hoping to validate/invalidate using my DNA results. If you do go with Ancestry, they tend to run 30-40% off sales around the holidays and I scored a 50% discount when I did mine so it's worth watching for sales.
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As I mentioned earlier I don't use MyHeritage for records. I simply use it for the DNA tools.
There's been two pivotal genealogy successes thanks to MH DNA. One was a match with a woman and her second cousin who lives in the USA, but their trees stopped at their Scottish gt-grandmother. From the chromosome browser I could see that he matched several descendants of my Scottish gtgtgt-grandfather on one segment and she matched us on another segment. I bought the marriage cert for her grandmother from ScotlandsPeople and her mother had the same surname as this Scottish gtgtgt-grandfather.
A few more records later we could see that she was descended from my ancestor's sister Grisal (we already had her baptism record) who was known as Grace when she married in 1825 in a different county from where she was born.
The tree has progressed since then and we now know that Grisal was a half-sister.
The other one was confirmation that I had found the correct family for a Scottish gtgt-grandmother called Catherine. Her family emigrated in the 1850s but there was a mistake on her death certificate which had been misleading. A genealogist on a bulletin board filled in the gaps. In my excitement I contacted a couple of people with her in her tree who were descended from her siblings but they said she hadn't married a Samuel - she'd married a Thomas when she was 16. They had her being widowed (no death found for Thomas), remarrying and dieing childless as the other end of the country.
I was increasingly certain that I had found the correct family, but our Catherine was telling porkies when she married Samuel and wasn't the spinster she claimed to be - she was probably still legally married to Thomas! A generation later (if this indeed was the family) Catherine's brother-in-law was a witness at my gt-grandmother's marriage.
Catherine's sibling's descendants were still very sceptical that this Catherine was theirs. I suggested to one that we might solve this with DNA but she didn't think it was necessary. And then one day a new match appeared at MyHeritage - a descendant of Catherine's older sister Margaret. Since then there's been others at various sites, but MH gets the prize for the first match. I was SO happy. The relative who didn't think a DNA test was necessary matches another descendant of Catherine at Ancestry. She can't be oblivious to the match because she's copied the photo of our ancestors' grave (I had to do a bit of hacking through undergrowth to get to it and take the photo) to her locked tree. I delibertately uploaded it to see whether this person's account was still active, and the alacrity with which it was copied to her tree confirmed it was! Unfortunately for some reason the Ancestry message function doesn't seem to work for her....pass me a Tui beer.
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Lionel,
Try and look at it this way. My parents both came from the same town. Their parents, i.e. my four grandparents, all came from that same town as well. When I started my research I was sure that I had solid ancestry in that one area.
Martin
Hi!
Thanks for your comment - however, without any great help from MH on either the Scots or the English side of the family, we are now back to the late 1700s and nothing in the DNA results show any 20% connection to Scandinavia, Finnland or Iberia - and Scotland is missing completely although there must be hundreds of unknown cousins, 10th removed, up there. If I misread the MH advertisments (which I doubt I did) then I was intentionally given misleading information. And that especially applies to their "data search". That I certainly did not misunderstand.
Lionel
Your "20% Scandinavian" might be the Scottish you are looking for. https://blog.kittycooper.com/2017/05/norwegian-or-english-dna-predictions/
Scottish is probably only "missing completely" because none of the descendants of your Scottish ancestors have taken DNA tests, or they have moved elsewhere.
The percentages in the "ethnicity" results change over time as more people take DNA tests. There have been numerous threads on rootschat on the subject. It is suggested that people do not take the ethnicity percentages in DNA results too literally - they are at best a rough guide.
I can't offer any comment on My Heritage search functions as I only have knowledge of the DNA aspect - which I transferred from another company. Ads will only show you the success stories.
Good luck in your search Kathleen! :) If you also get someone from the other side of your family to take a test too (not your brother's side), it should help you to eliminate some matches.
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Thanks for your good wishes Rushkie. I will post my updates soon
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I had a DNA-test done by MyHeritage and while waiting for the results also paid for a search of their almost 10 billion documents. The DNA came back with ca. 70% English (not British), 22% Scandinavian/Finnish and 8% Iberien (Spain-Portugal). They also found more than 5.300 possible "cousins", half of which are in the US.
My grandparents were half Scots / half English with both families (as of now and still searching) going back to the late 1700s. As of 1780 we have had neither Scandinavian/Finnish nor Iberian influence and the mass of dozens of family members in Scotland doesn't even appear in the results. Neither did anybody emigrate to the US, only 1 cousin to Canada. The whole thing is a complete failure, can not be used for further study and is an absolute waste of money. Explanation from MyHeriatge: the connections to these countries probably come from Roman and Viking invadors; the Scots disappear due to intermarriage with the English (but they didn't). What does this company think I am - an American tourist trying to impress the locals back home?
Lionel, you seem to misunderstand how DNA is passed down through the generations.
Yes children get half of their DNA from their father and half of their DNA from their mother but that does not mean the child gets half of all the DNA their father has or half of all the DNA their mother has.
It is perfectly possible that the parts of the DNA from earlier “Scottish” descent has not been passed on but the parts of the DNA from earlier “English” DNA has.
It could be the “Scottish” DNA has been labelled as part of the 22% Scandinavian/Finnish due to recombination.
The ethnicity results are based on averages for a particular area developed from the samples used when compiling the regional ethnicity's.
It is similar to the way a blue eyed father and a blue eyed mother can have a brown eyed baby.
Cheers
Guy
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I have lots of puzzling matches on MyHeritage. I didn't test with them, I tested with FTDNA, but my results from there have been uploaded to MyHeritage.
Try this one for size. One match is on my mother's side and is a proven 4th cousin by paper-trail research. This man matches me on 32.6cM.
I also have two matches on my father's side who share some of my 3 x great-grandparents - proven by paper-trail research years ago - and these people match me on 35cM and 33.4cM respectively.
So far, so good. I know exactly who these people are. BUT - there is a Swedish woman who matches me on 35.7cM, a Swedish man who matches me on 32.6cM and a Norwegian man who matches me on 30.8cM. Believe me, I have traced all my ancestors back into at least the early 1700s and sometimes much earlier, and I have NO Scandinavian ancestors whatsoever in recorded historical time.
So how do you explain that?
Harry
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So far, so good. I know exactly who these people are. BUT - there is a Swedish woman who matches me on 35.7cM, a Swedish man who matches me on 32.6cM and a Norwegian man who matches me on 30.8cM. Believe me, I have traced all my ancestors back into at least the early 1700s and sometimes much earlier, and I have NO Scandinavian ancestors whatsoever in recorded historical time.
Harry
Are these people matching on a single segment of 30cM, or several segments that add up to 30cM? If it's the latter then I think it is way way back or a false match. The imputation at MH may be a factor.
Had a match in Iceland pop up yesterday at MH who triangulates with some known cousins on a 13cM segment. This shared segment can only have come down to us from Perth/Fife or Dorset/Devon. But it is very close to a pile-up region.
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I have lots of puzzling matches on MyHeritage. I didn't test with them, I tested with FTDNA, but my results from there have been uploaded to MyHeritage.
Try this one for size. One match is on my mother's side and is a proven 4th cousin by paper-trail research. This man matches me on 32.6cM.
I also have two matches on my father's side who share some of my 3 x great-grandparents - proven by paper-trail research years ago - and these people match me on 35cM and 33.4cM respectively.
So far, so good. I know exactly who these people are. BUT - there is a Swedish woman who matches me on 35.7cM, a Swedish man who matches me on 32.6cM and a Norwegian man who matches me on 30.8cM. Believe me, I have traced all my ancestors back into at least the early 1700s and sometimes much earlier, and I have NO Scandinavian ancestors whatsoever in recorded historical time.
So how do you explain that?
Harry
This has come up before, all the DNA profiles I have on MyHeritage also have the same problem. I think there is something quite wrong going on in the MyHeritage algorithms - somehow it is looking at segments that are actually just common to the whole of NW Europe and taking them to mean a closer relationship than is actually the case.
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So far, so good. I know exactly who these people are. BUT - there is a Swedish woman who matches me on 35.7cM, a Swedish man who matches me on 32.6cM and a Norwegian man who matches me on 30.8cM. Believe me, I have traced all my ancestors back into at least the early 1700s and sometimes much earlier, and I have NO Scandinavian ancestors whatsoever in recorded historical time.
Harry
Are these people matching on a single segment of 30cM, or several segments that add up to 30cM? If it's the latter then I think it is way way back or a false match. The imputation at MH may be a factor.
Had a match in Iceland pop up yesterday at MH who triangulates with some known cousins on a 13cM segment. This shared segment can only have come down to us from Perth/Fife or Dorset/Devon. But it is very close to a pile-up region.
I've just been checking out all my Scandinavian (mostly Swedish) matches on both FTDNAFamilyFinder and MyHeritage, and there is a definite pattern of shared segments of chromosome. And how about this - I have a FamilyFinder match called Anne-Marie Solveig Jacobsson who matches me on 45cM, and another match on MyHeritage called Eva-Lott Nilsson who matches me on 35.7cM, and all three of us match on chromosomes 1,2,5,17 and 18!
I have other matches on
chr.5,15, 18 and 20
chr.2,5,12 and 15 (a Norwegian)
and there are others I haven't checked yet.
Harry
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I've just been checking out all my Scandinavian (mostly Swedish) matches on both FTDNAFamilyFinder and MyHeritage, and there is a definite pattern of shared segments of chromosome. And how about this - I have a FamilyFinder match called Anne-Marie Solveig Jacobsson who matches me on 45cM, and another match on MyHeritage called Eva-Lott Nilsson who matches me on 35.7cM, and all three of us match on chromosomes 1,2,5,17 and 18!
I have other matches on
chr.5,15, 18 and 20
chr.2,5,12 and 15 (a Norwegian)
and there are others I haven't checked yet.
Harry
Harry,
The total cMs on FTDNA are overstated as they include ALL segments right down to 1cM in the total, so to compare apples with apples at the total shared level you need to subtract the segments less than say 7cMs from that total.
You also need to look at the individual segments and their placement on the chromosomes, along with the shared matches rather than stating the total and an overall chromosome.
eg if a segment, not the total shared, is less than 10cMs* it may indeed be a false positive and not worth worrying about, even if it is real as it will very likely be a LONG LONG way back in time.
* some say 15cMs to be sure, but I generally work at 12 as mostly being real segments
Concentrate on any of the matches that have the little triangulation symbols to the right of the match on a shared match list, and within those, the ones that share at least a 12cM segment.
Which size could still be along way back.
Also you may know your own ancestors a long way back, but do you know all the descendants of the furthest back couples?
Lorna
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I agree with Lorna.
The other possibility is that some time back some of your relatives settled in Scandinavia. We have a Y-DNA match who descends from a soldier who was an 'Englander' who settled in Sweden in the 1600s. His sons had a dispute over his will which provided documentation of his origins. In another line we have documentation of a Scottish relative who was in the army and also were granted land in Sweden.
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I agree with Lorna.
The other possibility is that some time back some of your relatives settled in Scandinavia. We have a Y-DNA match who descends from a soldier who was an 'Englander' who settled in Sweden in the 1600s. His sons had a dispute over his will which provided documentation of his origins. In another line we have documentation of a Scottish relative who was in the army and also were granted land in Sweden.
I don't think any Norwegian or Swedish close relatives are involved here. It is due to the fact MyHeritage have not yet correctly worked out a way to filter out 'Identical By Descent' segments, which may indicate a very distant (1000+ year) common ancestry, which Ancestry's Timber system has managed to do
https://isogg.org/wiki/Identical_by_descent
http://blogs.ancestry.com/techroots/filtering-dna-matches-at-ancestrydna-with-timber/
See also from 20:40 in this Rootstech 2019 talk with Ancestry DNA's head of science Barry Starr
https://www.rootstech.org/video/ask-a-scientist-from-ancestrydna
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I don't think any Norwegian or Swedish close relatives are involved here. It is due to the fact MyHeritage have not yet correctly worked out a way to filter out 'Identical By Descent' segments, which may indicate a very distant (1000+ year) common ancestry, which Ancestry's Timber system has managed to do
A lot of Harry's ancestry is from Fife seaports, so there could have been interaction with Scandinavia.
But I'm not sure how large the largest segments are - if he's sharing 30cM with people over 5 segments then most of those segments would be very small, and IBS.
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I don't think any Norwegian or Swedish close relatives are involved here. It is due to the fact MyHeritage have not yet correctly worked out a way to filter out 'Identical By Descent' segments, which may indicate a very distant (1000+ year) common ancestry, which Ancestry's Timber system has managed to do
A lot of Harry's ancestry is from Fife seaports, so there could have been interaction with Scandinavia.
But I'm not sure how large the largest segments are - if he's sharing 30cM with people over 5 segments then most of those segments would be very small, and IBS.
But I also have these and have no even likely Scandinavian connections - and these only appear on MyHeritage not Ancestry or GEDMATCH, so I think it is a MyHeritage specific quirk.
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"... interaction with Scandinavia." What a lovely way to put it. As a teenager I used to dream about the blonde girl in ABBA. Does that count?
Martin
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But I also have these and have no even likely Scandinavian connections - and these only appear on MyHeritage not Ancestry or GEDMATCH, so I think it is a MyHeritage specific quirk.
In an earlier post in this thread I mentioned imputation, which I think is a factor in this. One of the kits I manage gets some Scandinavian matches at certain segments, BUT these segments were already getting Scandinavian matches on these segments at FamilyTreeDNA before MyHeritage was offering DNA testing and FtDNA doesn't use imputation.
I suspect that for this person these are mostly IBS matches but a small number are valid, but from many generations back.
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"... interaction with Scandinavia." What a lovely way to put it. As a teenager I used to dream about the blonde girl in ABBA. Does that count?
Martin
At a conference many years ago I got talking to a distinguished scholar of Scandinavian history, now late, who wrote several books about the history of the individual Nordic countries, and I asked him what first got him interested in Scandinavia, expecting a suitably academic response. Well, he said, when I was an undergraduate in Cambridge there were all these lovely Swedish au-pairs in the town ...
Harry
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Hello everyone,
I got my DNA back from MyHeritage, found highest result 1st cousin twice removed below it reads 2nd cousin once removed shared 2.7% (189.3cm) 10 shared segments longest segment 36.1cm
As this is the highest l assumed that was good but the next person reads 2.2% (156) shared 8 and largest 48.7cm. Is it the segments size of amount that's significant?
Ethnicity 95.9% Irish Scottish & Welsh 4.1% Finnish.
Craclyn suggests l put my info on gematch,livingDNA & FTDAND how do l do that please.
My questions are never ending lol but just one more please which do you folks recommend l buy 23and me or Ancestry DNA.
Thank you very much Kathleen 😀
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Craclyn suggests l put my info on gematch,livingDNA & FTDAND how do l do that please.
Hi Murrell
I suggest that you read the upload-download blog posts by Roberta Estes on her DNA Explained blog
https://dna-explained.com/?s=download&submit=Search
As to which to test at, Ancestry has by far the largest database and is easier to use than 23andme, but does not provide the segment details all the other companies do, so you cannot actually check that the DNA connections suggested by ThruLines are actually where the DNA comes from
https://web.archive.org/web/20140803031735/http://bitstrips.com/r/S1J61
Lorna
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Gr8 many thanks 😊