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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: draarcy on Wednesday 17 July 19 09:27 BST (UK)
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I am seeking advice about the origin of a middle name of one of my ancestors. His name is William Morris born in Bilston Staffordshire abt 1808. His middle name is recorded as Huntbach on many documents and this has also been passed down through his descendants both male & females. I am wondering whether the name of Huntbach might be connected to the Bilston region or have some significance for it to be used as a middle name and also what type of documents might be of assistance in going back further.
I have tracked William Morris back to 1841 using census records. (1841 H 107/1144/7 at Little Charles street Birmingham, 1851 H107/2176 at Burlington st Liverpool, 1861 RG 9/2500 North St Derby.) I have not been able to locate his Marriage record (which possibly will not have his father's name on anyway). thanks for any advice
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Was there a marriage between people of this surname within your family, just a thought
Louisa Maud
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Is it a French family name? It could be the Huntbach of Notre Dame :P
Apologies it was a serious question - John Huntbach was an Antiquary who lived in Featherstone Staffordshire. He may have been a sponsor of the family hence the middle name. It may have been passed through a female line
The name Huntbach may come from a small place near Eccleshall in the reign of Edward 3
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Check relatives to see if anyone married a Huntbach. I spent years trying to figure out the reason for my great aunt’s middle name. I finally discovered that it was the married name of her grandmother’s sister.
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I have one line where the middle name was the fathers surname (they were a little late up the aisle) and that passed on through about 10 generations
Willow x
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I have an ancestor whose middle name was his grandmother's maiden name!
John Whitmore Garrad.
So you may have to search a bit harder?! ;D
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I couldn't find a Morris/Huntbach marriage but there is a baptism St Leonards Bilston 7.2.1808 of a William Morris parents George and Sarah - marriage 14.4.1800 St Peters Wolverhampton George Morris & Sarah Butcher
Willow x
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What is Marys maiden name from a Childs Birth Cert?
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I haven't been able to pin one down for the kids Sarah was born 7.11.1845 baptised 4.1.1846 Liverpool but I cant tie it down to a GRO entry
Willow x
*Update baptised St Marys' Liverpool Roman Catholic Church*
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Huntbach is fairly common in Staffordshire but not numerous. One or more birth, marriage or death for most years. 1839-1984. Free BMD.
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Phoebe baptised 26.6.1843 Birmingham name on FindMyPast as Huntbachmorris
John born 1838 and Ann born 1835 both baptised on the same date so the marriage must have been pre1835
Willow x
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Thanks to all. Just following up on a few things: Would the St Leonard's baptism & marriage records that are suggested contain more information than that listed in the thread? How would I go about getting a copy of these (are they online??). Also in regard to the marriage of William Morris to Mary... (wife on the 1841 Census), I think this may have occurred in Birmingham as this is where Mary is from. One possible marriage is to Mary Yardley 21 Sept 1829 St Phillips. But again trying to locate what these might show and how to get a copy of the actual record.
I think I will try to locate possible siblings of William Morris from Bilston and see where it leads me.
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Hi Draarcy
St Leonards records are transcribed here http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/indexes/index.html?sid=37a67446a896b146e91e40c1ba2434b7 usually they are a full transcription of the record also you can try FreeREG. You can try FreeBMD for certificates and if you register at GRO http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ births list the mothers maiden name FindMyPast sometimes has an image of the register but you would have to subscribe to see them and they don't have the Huntbachmorris ones just a transcription
Willow x
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It was curiosity about my grandfather's middle name that got me started on all this. He was James Sedcole Watson. Sedcole I discovered was his mother's sisters husband's name.
Martin