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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Midlothian => Topic started by: meppy on Monday 15 July 19 22:36 BST (UK)
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I'm doing some research for my friend , her grandmother was adopted in 1900 and on her birth certificate it says 51Nicolson Street. when I try to search the address it says it can't be found tho on Scotland Gro it says 45 people !were there but cannot access any names ! I would appreciate any help I have been told that there may have been a lying in hosp there.
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In 1900-01, 51 Nicolson Street was apparently a tobacconist shop
https://archive.org/details/postofficeedinbu190001edi/page/562
The maps don't show any sign of a lying in hospital.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/74415767
Nicolson Street is the wide street running from north to south on the map towards the right hand side. There was the Royal Blind Asylum nearby.
Nell
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Not sure this will help but on the VRs 1905 there's 2 Proprietors, Gardner & Stirton & a Tenant Miss Mary Scott.
All 3 are no. 51 & all 3 are 'Shop'
What was the mother's occupation on the BC?
Add...1895 there are a lot more names with same address
Add...She may have been a Lodger at the address i.e. her name wouldn't appear on the VRs
Annie
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Not sure this will help but on the VRs 1905 there's 2 Proprietors, Gardner & Stirton & a Tenant Miss Mary Scott.
All 3 are no. 51 & all 3 are 'Shop'
What was the mother's occupation on the BC?
Add...1895 there are a lot more names with same address
Add...She may have been a Lodger at the address i.e. her name wouldn't appear on the VRs
Annie
I'm doing some research for my friend , her grandmother was adopted in 1900 and on her birth certificate it says 51Nicolson Street. when I try to search the address it says it can't be found tho on Scotland Gro it says 45 people !were there but cannot access any names ! I would appreciate any help I have been told that there may have been a lying in hosp there.
In 1900-01, 51 Nicolson Street was apparently a tobacconist shop
https://archive.org/details/postofficeedinbu190001edi/page/562
The maps don't show any sign of a lying in hospital.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/74415767
Nicolson Street is the wide street running from north to south on the map towards the right hand side. There was the Royal Blind Asylum nearby.
Nell
Thank you great help
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Not sure this will help but on the VRs 1905 there's 2 Proprietors, Gardner & Stirton & a Tenant Miss Mary Scott.
All 3 are no. 51 & all 3 are 'Shop'
What was the mother's occupation on the BC?
Add...1895 there are a lot more names with same address
Add...She may have been a Lodger at the address i.e. her name wouldn't appear on the VRs
Thank You Annie I think Ive solvedit thanks for all your help
Annie
I'm doing some research for my friend , her grandmother was adopted in 1900 and on her birth certificate it says 51Nicolson Street. when I try to search the address it says it can't be found tho on Scotland Gro it says 45 people !were there but cannot access any names ! I would appreciate any help I have been told that there may have been a lying in hosp there.
In 1900-01, 51 Nicolson Street was apparently a tobacconist shop
https://archive.org/details/postofficeedinbu190001edi/page/562
The maps don't show any sign of a lying in hospital.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/74415767
Nicolson Street is the wide street running from north to south on the map towards the right hand side. There was the Royal Blind Asylum nearby.
Nell
Thank you great help
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At reply #4 you added your message within my quote i.e. very difficult to spot.
Add...She may have been a Lodger at the address i.e. her name wouldn't appear on the VRs
"Thank You Annie I think Ive solvedit thanks for all your help"
Glad to have been a help.
Annie
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I know Nicolson Street a bit, is this a tenement with shops on the ground floor?
Skoosh.
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In modern terms, 51, 51a and 53 Nicolson Street form a tenement building. 51 and 53 are ground-floor shops. 51a is a tenement over the shops, with one house on each of three storeys. It is possible that 51a was originally 51 (same as the shop).
See 1940s OS map:
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102734390
And Google streetview:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9457629,-3.1848766,3a,90y,244.22h,101.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s-qfgpk0YfyNYYcWh0_WIFw!2e0!5s20170601T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
ADP
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The following were listed on the 1895 Valuation Rolls.
BRADFIELD
MARY ANN
MRS
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE NO 51 NICOLSON STREET
EDINBURGH
1895
CRAWFORD
THOMAS
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE NO 51 NICOLSON STREET
EDINBURGH
1895
GARDNER
JOHN KAY
Proprietor
HOUSE NO 51 NICOLSON STREET
EDINBURGH
1895
GREINER
CHARLES FIDELA
Tenant Occupier
STORE NO 51 NICOLSON STREET
EDINBURGH
1895
MACKIE
JOHN
Proprietor
HOUSE NO 51 NICOLSON STREET
EDINBURGH
1895
MOFFAT
HENRY
Proprietor
HOUSE NO 51 NICOLSON STREET
EDINBURGH
1895
SMITH
WILLIAM
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE NO 51 NICOLSON STREET
EDINBURGH
1895
THOMSON
HELEN
MRS
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE NO 51 NICOLSON STREET
Hibee
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The following were listed in the 1905 Valuation Rolls:
GARDNER
JOHN KAY
Proprietor
SHOP NO 51 NICOLSON STREET
EDINBURGH
1905
SCOTT
MARY
MISS
Tenant Occupier
SHOP NO 51 NICOLSON STREET
EDINBURGH
1905
Hibee
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Hi, I am trying to find more information on my Grandfather’s birth in 1904. His birth address is also 51 Nicholson St and he was also adopted.
I am wondering if this was possibly a place for unmarried mothers to go and where their babies would be given up for adoption.
I don’t think it is coincidence that the records you are looking at are similar.
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Hi jaybeats and a warm welcome to rootschat.
Legal adoption did not come into being until 1930 in Scotland so prior to that it would have been a private arrangement.
Nicolson Street in Edinburgh had shops at street level and tenement private houses above. It did not have a specific place for unmarried mothers to go to have their babies. I would think that one of the flat residents let out rooms to the mothers and once the baby was born helped to arrange an unofficial adoption or a foster home for them.
Have you found your grandfather in the 1911 and 1921 Scottish Census? What surname does he use on his marriage certificate? Perhaps you could post his name here.
Best wishes,
Dorrie
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Hibee's reply quoting Mrs Mary Ann Bradfield at No.51 (51a in 1905) is listed a midwife.
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Mary Ann Bradfield is still listed in the 1905 Valuation Roll at 51A Nicolson Street, Edinburgh. Midwife.
She died in 1910.
Dorrie