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Title: Hit a wall - George Davies
Post by: Worcestershiregal on Monday 15 July 19 20:27 BST (UK)
Hello,
I’m looking for pointers when you’ve hit a wall.

I received the marriage certificate for William George Davies and Mary Sansome in 1852, Birmingham. It lists the grooms father as George Davies.


I can’t seem to have hit the wall with dad, George. His occupation was listed as a groomsman. I think his spouse was Mary and I believe they gave birth to William George Davies in Evesbatch, Hereford. Even then I’m not sure. Any help and advice to get past my wall would be gratefully received.
Title: Re: Hit a wall - George Davies
Post by: IgorStrav on Monday 15 July 19 20:38 BST (UK)
Do you have a birth ref for William George Davies?
When was he born, and do you have him in censuses?
What were the witnesses' names on the marriage?
What was his father's occupation?

Where did you get the information about George and Mary, his parents?

Is this him?
William Davies
Gender:   Male
Baptism Date:   7 Jan 1827
Baptism Place:   Evesbatch, Hereford, England
Father:   George Davies
Mother:   Mary
FHL Film Number:   992336

And added:  why do you think this christening ref is him?  Does he  mention Evesbatch as pob in later censuses?
Title: Re: Hit a wall - George Davies
Post by: PaulineJ on Monday 15 July 19 20:38 BST (UK)
Do we know his address at marriage? ( w g davies)
His age?
His occupation?
The names of the witnesses?
Title: Re: Hit a wall - George Davies
Post by: crisane on Monday 15 July 19 21:07 BST (UK)
1861 RG9 Piece 2154 Folio 86 Page 3
Snow Hill No 2 House, Birmingham
William Davies    31 Groom Hereford, Herefordshire
Mary Davies 29 Nurse, Domestic servant (nee Sansome according to Celia's birth reg) Birmingham, Warwickshire
Celia M Davies 6 Shrewsbury, Shropshire
William J G Davies 4 Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Thomas Davies    7 months Birmingham
Ambrose Higgins  37 Ironmonger's shopman Lodger Brirmingham
Title: Re: Hit a wall - George Davies
Post by: crisane on Monday 15 July 19 21:13 BST (UK)
William Davies bachelor
Horse Keeper
Age 23
Born c 1829
Living at Temple St
Married 20 June 1852
at Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England
Father - George Davies, Coachman
Spouse - Mary Sansome Spinster age 21
Living at Snow hill
Father - William Sansome, Horse keeper
Only one  witness - George Welch
Title: Re: Hit a wall - George Davies
Post by: crisane on Monday 15 July 19 22:00 BST (UK)
There was another child born prior to Celia
Sarah Perry Davies Dec 1/4 1852 registration district Birmingham vol 6d page 130 mother's maiden name Sansome.
Having trouble finding William for sure in1841/51.

What makes you think his middle name was George? His son's name was William George but transcribed as a J in the 1861 census. I will correct it to 'G' as per the birth registration on the GRO index.
Title: Re: Hit a wall - George Davies
Post by: crisane on Monday 15 July 19 22:26 BST (UK)
RG10 Piece  3117 Folio 5 Page 3
2Ct 3 House, Snow Hill
Sarah Sansome 65 Laundress Shropshire
James Green 47 Lodger
Hugh Wald 23 Lodger
Sarah Pelly (Perry) Davies 18 granddaughter dressmaker Birmingham
William George Davies 14 grandson salop Shrewsbury
Alice Davies 12 Shrewsbury
Agnes Davies 5 Birmingham

Sarah and Alice were both with their grandmother in 1861

Agnes Davies June 1/4 1865 Birmimgham vol 6d page 140 mmn Sansome    
Alice Davies dec 1/4 1858 Shrewsbury Col 6a page 607 mmn Sansome

Did Mary and William die between 1864 - 1871 or just Mary?

I still can't get further back than 1861 with William for sure.    
Title: Re: Hit a wall - George Davies
Post by: Daisypetal on Tuesday 30 July 19 14:31 BST (UK)

Hi,

How about this William,


Baptism

17 Feb 1828
St. John Baptist, Hereford
William DAVIES
Father:    George DAVIES
Mother:    Selina


I can't see an image to see what George's occupation is.  William has a daughter called Celia which could be named after his mother :-\


Regards,
Daisy