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Title: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: ladytodd on Sunday 14 July 19 15:15 BST (UK)
Could someone give me an approximate year this photo was taken and also roughly the age of
the elegant lady who I think (I'm hoping) will be my GGGGrandmother.  Thank you, Ladyt
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: M_ONeill on Sunday 14 July 19 18:35 BST (UK)
My guess at the time would be late 1800s early 1900s, leaning towards 1900-1910 or so, but then I'm not a fashion expert!
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Mowsehowse on Monday 15 July 19 09:26 BST (UK)
Yes, I agree possibly 1895 to 1905 very roughly.  (Easier if she had a hat.)

I'm guessing the lady is not married or engaged as the ring hand is not prominent.

Perhaps she is in her 20's?
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 July 19 09:34 BST (UK)
I don't think that this is one of the 1890s style blouses. I'd say 1900-1907-ish

Gadget

Add - Alternatively it could be circa 1889 with the pinched up sleeve tops.
 
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Mowsehowse on Monday 15 July 19 09:38 BST (UK)
I don't think that this is one of the 1890s style blouses. I'd say 1900-1907-ish
Gadget

Quite an unusual embellishment. Haven't seen anything like it before, can't quite work it out.
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 July 19 09:40 BST (UK)
Lots of books and online resources show various embellishments.
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Mowsehowse on Monday 15 July 19 09:47 BST (UK)
Lots of books and online resources show various embellishments.

Yes, but mainly symmetrical.
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 July 19 09:54 BST (UK)
Found a photo in one of my books with the sleeker line that is shown in this image that has been dated 1900.

I recall Jim giving some info on this style at one stage.


Add - just noticed that OP was asking about age as well - maybe late 20s-early 30s.
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Wiggy on Monday 15 July 19 10:03 BST (UK)
IF  she is about 20-30, and the fashion is early 1900s,  it seems a stretch for her to be the OP's GGGgrandmother.    :-\ :-\ :-\.

Wiggy
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 July 19 10:18 BST (UK)
I'm in two minds about it and thinking it could be the earlier date:


Add - Alternatively it could be circa 1889 with the pinched up sleeve tops.
 

Mind you - my 3 x greats were born 1812 -ish and 4x in the mid-late 1700s
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 July 19 10:28 BST (UK)
IF  she is about 20-30, and the fashion is early 1900s,  it seems a stretch for her to be the OP's GGGgrandmother.    :-\ :-\ :-\.

Wiggy

Just looked through the OPs previous posts and see that one of her 2x greats was born circa 1866 so I don't think that this is likely to be her 4xgreat.
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: ladytodd on Monday 15 July 19 11:29 BST (UK)
Thanks All for your input. It should be 3timesGrandmother. Going by the years put forward its not who I think it is, which is a shame. My GGGGrandmother was born 1784 and the only reason I thought it was her is that it has 'Jennie' in the bottom right corner. Her name is actually Jane but she was called Jenny and her marriage record also says Jenny. Are there any other names that could possibly be shortened - if that's the right word - to Jenny? I have lots of Mary Janes which I suppose could be Jenny at a push.  ??? Ladyt
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Wiggy on Monday 15 July 19 11:38 BST (UK)
Then it definitely isn't that one . . . . . Too young to be photographed at that age if born 1784. - if you see what I mean.

Possibly not even a family member - or could be a more distant rellie maybe.  :)
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 July 19 11:40 BST (UK)
It might even be a friend of the family and not related at all :)
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Wiggy on Monday 15 July 19 11:41 BST (UK)
Might indeed!   ;)
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: jim1 on Monday 15 July 19 12:03 BST (UK)
Agree with Gadget. Edwardian & probably the first half, so around 1900-05 I would suggest.
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: ladytodd on Monday 15 July 19 12:09 BST (UK)
The thing is there is a family resemblance there I don’t think it’s a family friend though it is possible. Do you think she was born 1870-1880? I can then start going through the females in the family around that time. Thanks, Ladyt
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 July 19 12:38 BST (UK)
Agree with Gadget. Edwardian & probably the first half, so around 1900-05 I would suggest.

Thank goodness for confirmation, Jim  :)

Look for circa 1870s-1880s births first, Ladyt.
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: jim1 on Monday 15 July 19 12:40 BST (UK)
She looks mid 20's to me.
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: ladytodd on Monday 15 July 19 14:07 BST (UK)
Thank you Gadget and Jim1
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: ladytodd on Monday 15 July 19 21:35 BST (UK)
Hi again, Thought you may be interested Gadget. I have found her already. Its taken me all day but worth it. The lady in question is my Grandmother's elder Sister, Mary Jane Read born October 1882.
She married in 1908 so I'm guessing it was taken just before her marriage. Then I found her in the 1911 census with her husband and she was down as Jennie. Unfortunately, she died at 31 in 1914.
Anyway, thought I would let you know. Ladyt
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 July 19 21:44 BST (UK)
That's really good news, Ladyt, but sad that she died so young.

It's great when a mystery is solved  :)

Gadget
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Wiggy on Monday 15 July 19 22:02 BST (UK)
Well done Ladyt - good to solve the mystery.

Wiggy
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 16 July 19 11:09 BST (UK)
Ooops I put this on the wrong post. Sorry.
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: ladytodd on Tuesday 16 July 19 11:43 BST (UK)
Jim1 how did you see that?! I never spotted it. At least I know now that she was over 26 years old when photo taken. Thank you, Ladyt
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 16 July 19 12:57 BST (UK)
Ooops I put this on the wrong post. Sorry.

I was just about to say that I couldn't see any rings.

 ;D

Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: IgorStrav on Tuesday 16 July 19 13:25 BST (UK)
I was wondering what sort of Xray vision Jim had to see a ring on a fourth finger behind a chair back.

I have great faith in his judgements, so I thought it must just be me  ;)
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: ladytodd on Tuesday 16 July 19 13:50 BST (UK)
Jim1 I won’t hold it against you 😆😆 Ladyt
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Tuesday 16 July 19 14:00 BST (UK)
It's only my theory and I haven't got a lot to support it, but I always think that if you have photographs of close family you don't bother writing on the back who the subject is. You'd only write names and places if it was a more casual acquaintance. You don't have to disagree with my theory but feel free.

Martin
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: ladytodd on Tuesday 16 July 19 14:09 BST (UK)
You’re probably right! I have a wad of old photos that my Grandfather gave to my Mother and said these are my family. My Mother doesn’t know who many of them are and they all lived at the opposite end of the country to where my Grandfather settled. He was 99 when he died and he had 12 brothers and sisters. There are no names on the back bar one. Yet his photos of war pals had names on. I wish that I had asked him more. Ladyt
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Mowsehowse on Tuesday 16 July 19 14:18 BST (UK)
Yes, I agree possibly 1895 to 1905 very roughly.  (Easier if she had a hat.)

I'm guessing the lady is not married or engaged as the ring hand is not prominent.

Perhaps she is in her 20's?

3rd post on this thread.........
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: ladytodd on Tuesday 16 July 19 14:24 BST (UK)
Mowsehowse I think she is in her 20s and taken before she got married in 1908
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Mowsehowse on Tuesday 16 July 19 14:31 BST (UK)
Yes.
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 16 July 19 14:44 BST (UK)
mowsehouse - we dated it as Edwardian ages ago. ie - after 1901
Title: Re: Date Old Photo of GGGGGrandmother Reid
Post by: Mowsehowse on Tuesday 16 July 19 15:13 BST (UK)
mowsehouse - we dated it as Edwardian ages ago. ie - after 1901

Yes we did, posts 2, 3 and 4.
Where I also mentioned probable lack of rings.