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Title: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: ozziemike on Sunday 14 July 19 03:33 BST (UK)
Looking for the baptism of Charlotte Chisnall born Colchester circa 1820. Father is Richard.
Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 July 19 08:53 BST (UK)
Is this her in 1851?

Richard Chesnal   52 Shoemaker born Hadleigh, Suffolk
Isabella Chesnal   53
William Chesnal   26
Frederic Chesnal19
Sarah Chesnal   16
Charles Chesnal   14
William Stevens   32
Charlotte Stevens 32 born 1819 Colchester
Elizabeth Stevens 10
Joseph Stevens   8
Edward Stevens   4
William Stevens   1
George Stevens   3 mths

CHARLOTTE Chisnall Bapt 5 Nov 1826 Capel Saint Mary, Suffolk
Parents RICHARD/ISABELLA

Mass Bapt on that day of CHARLOTTE/WILLIAM*/CAROLINE/SUSANNA

On Familysearch.Org


1851 Census William Chesnall (Chisnall) is born c 1825 Cople St Mary, Suffolk :)



Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 July 19 08:55 BST (UK)
1841 Susanna is at home in Lancs;
Richard Chimal   40
Isabella Chimal   40
Susanna Chimal   15
William Chimal   15
Guy Chimal   14
Fredrick Chimal   12
Sarah Chimal   6
Charles Chimal   4
Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: ozziemike on Sunday 14 July 19 09:41 BST (UK)
Thanks for your reply Trish. Unfortunately this is not her. Charlotte was married in 1840 to a William Stevens. On the 1871 census her place of birth was recorded as Colchester, Essex.
Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 14 July 19 10:56 BST (UK)
Why  Mike?
Trisha has found her with her family as Charlotte Stevens in 1851 and she is missing from the 1841 census?

Jennifer
Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 July 19 12:03 BST (UK)
I am sure it is her as children Baptised together on same day.

Children dont have be Bapt where they were born. This Family moved around.

In 1851 William was born 1825 Cople St Mary, Suffolk.

1841 Census all are not born in County except Charles 1836/7
Susanna is there also.
Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 July 19 12:21 BST (UK)
1851 Census
Hume, Lancs
John Marks, 28
Susannah Marks, 28, born Suffolk, Hadley

Susanna married 1845 Manchester, Father Richard Chisnall, Shoemaker

1871 she is with her Parents;

Richard Chisnall   72
Isabella Chisnall   73
Susannah Marks 48 Daug Widow Seamstress born Hadleigh, Suffolk

1861 the poor dear is a Widow in the Workhouse
Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 July 19 12:29 BST (UK)
Next children Bapt Hadleigh;
HENRY 10 Apr 1833, buried 27 Apr 1833
SARAH ANN 15 May 1836

Cant find a Bapt for Guy/Frederic/Charles
Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 14 July 19 12:40 BST (UK)
Is this her in 1851?

Richard Chesnal   52 Shoemaker born Hadleigh, Suffolk
Isabella Chesnal   53
William Chesnal   26
Frederic Chesnal19
Sarah Chesnal   16
Charles Chesnal   14
William Stevens   32
Charlotte Stevens 32 born 1819 Colchester
Elizabeth Stevens 10
Joseph Stevens   8
Edward Stevens   4
William Stevens   1
George Stevens   3 mths

CHARLOTTE Chisnall Bapt 5 Nov 1826 Capel Saint Mary, Suffolk
Parents RICHARD/ISABELLA

Mass Bapt on that day of CHARLOTTE/WILLIAM*/CAROLINE/SUSANNA

On Familysearch.Org


1851 Census William Chesnall (Chisnall) is born c 1825 Cople St Mary, Suffolk :)


Thanks for your reply Trish. Unfortunately this is not her.

Charlotte was married in 1840 to a William Stevens.

On the 1871 census her place of birth was recorded as Colchester, Essex.

Her m/c shows father Richard occ shoemaker

1861 census RG 9; Piece: 2830; Folio: 10; Page: 14
218 Derby Street, Bolton Lancashire
William Stevens   43
Charlotte STEVENS 43 Colchester
Elizabeth Stevens   20
William Stevens   11
Richard Stevens   6
Frederick Stevens   4
Martha Stevens   2
Edward Stevens   13
also on same census , same address
Richard CHISNELL 62 Hadleigh Suffolk occ shoemaker
Isabella   " 63
Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 14 July 19 13:05 BST (UK)
Elizabeth dau of William STEVENS & Charlotte, abode Turton
Bpt. 2 May 1841 Christ Church Walmsley Lancashire

(added) Elizabeth STEPHENS Birth quarter   2 Mother's maiden name Chisnall
District   Bolton LancashireVolume   21 Page   193

1840 marriage William Steven’s father Joseph    

1841c Bedford Row, Bolton, Lancashire            
Joseph   Stevens   1796   
Martha   Stevens   1796   
John   Stevens      1821
Eden   Stevens      1826   
Elizabeth   Stevens   1826
Thomas   Stevens   1826   
Henry   Stevens   1828   
Richard   Stevens   1832   
William   Stevens   1821   
Charlotte   Stevens   1821   
Elizabeth   Stevens   2 mths 1841   Lancashire

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Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: ozziemike on Sunday 14 July 19 13:09 BST (UK)
Sorry for my error - a “seniors moment”! Yes that is her ok on both the 1851 and 1861 census. Thanks for providing all the info especially that there was a mass baptism. Whilst that is of interest, her actual date of birth still isn’t known. If it wasn’t recorded at the time of the baptism then I have no idea if it was ever recorded.
Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 July 19 13:56 BST (UK)
No dates of birth for the siblings appear to not be on the mass Bapt. But following them through Census they are born c 1819-1825 :)
Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: ozziemike on Sunday 14 July 19 14:17 BST (UK)
On the 1840 marriage certificate Charlotte’s age is shown as “of age” which one assumes means she was 21 or over hence born circa 1819.
Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 14 July 19 14:37 BST (UK)
Not that this helps with an exact dob - her death age given was 74 born c 1819

Charlotte STEVENS   Sep 1893 Bolton Lancashire Volume:   8c Page:   378
Title: Re: Charlotte CHISNALL - circa 1820
Post by: ozziemike on Sunday 14 July 19 14:50 BST (UK)
Thanks for that. She died in August 1893.