RootsChat.Com

Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: NorfolkTrees on Thursday 04 July 19 23:29 BST (UK)

Title: Can't decipher the word after scholar?
Post by: NorfolkTrees on Thursday 04 July 19 23:29 BST (UK)
Looking for clarification of the word after scholar, screenshot attached. Full details below.

Name   Rebecca Cooper
Age   7
Estimated Birth Year   1844
Relation   Daughter
Father's Name   Henry Cooper
Mother's Name   Ann Cooper
Gender   Female
Where born   Aylmerton, Norfolk, England
Civil parish   Aylmerton
County/Island   Norfolk
Country   England
Registration district   Erpingham
Sub-registration district   North Walsham
ED, institution, or vessel   12
Household schedule number   4
Piece   1809
Folio   513
Page number   2
Title: Re: Can't decipher the word after scholar?
Post by: Claire64 on Thursday 04 July 19 23:54 BST (UK)
It looks like "unass..." I thought unassisted but the ending isn't right
The first letter could be S, he did his letter S like that
Title: Re: Can't decipher the word after scholar?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Friday 05 July 19 00:09 BST (UK)
Is it anything to do with entry below which has been crossed out?

End bit looks like mother/maker/worker (sorry I'm no help)
Title: Re: Can't decipher the word after scholar?
Post by: NorfolkTrees on Friday 05 July 19 00:33 BST (UK)
Is it anything to do with entry below which has been crossed out?

End bit looks like mother/maker/worker (sorry I'm no help)

Thanks. I think the deleted entry below says "Ag. Lab", removing the stem of the L would make the word above be maker/mother/worker you're right.

She grows up to be a dressmaker, but the beginning doesn't really look like dress.
Title: Re: Can't decipher the word after scholar?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Friday 05 July 19 00:53 BST (UK)
Could the word have nothing to do with the scholar line and be an alternative for the crossed out word...which i agree looks like agricultural labourer

Pauper worker (crossed out ag lab)?
Title: Re: Can't decipher the word after scholar?
Post by: shume on Friday 05 July 19 01:05 BST (UK)
Looking at the full image at Ancestry, the entry below Rebecca is Elizabeth Shepherd. I think the word that is hard to decipher belongs to her entry line: i.e. Elizabeth Shepherd, occupation Pauper, and when Ag Lab was crossed out, this word was written above.
shume
Title: Re: Can't decipher the word after scholar?
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 05 July 19 01:06 BST (UK)
Further on there are some shoe makers and the maker part looks just the same.
Might it be shoemaker too? (And yes relating to the entry below)
Title: Re: Can't decipher the word after scholar?
Post by: Claire64 on Friday 05 July 19 08:21 BST (UK)
Further on there are some shoe makers and the maker part looks just the same.
Might it be shoemaker too? (And yes relating to the entry below)

Yes I wondered about shoemaker, having gone to look at the original to compare handwriting. He didn't write anything after scholar on any other entry so I also think it's on the wrong line. She was just a scholar.  What awful writing he had! You can only read some of the entries because you already know from the context what should be there!
Title: Re: Can't decipher the word after scholar?
Post by: annmck on Friday 05 July 19 14:26 BST (UK)
Harness Maker?
Title: Re: Can't decipher the word after scholar?
Post by: polarbear on Friday 05 July 19 16:06 BST (UK)
Tracing Elizabeth Shepherd (lady below Rebecca) and her son backwards.....

It appears from the GRO index that MMN for young Robert is Massingham.

There is a marriage in 1841 for a Robert Shepherd and Elizabeth Massingham in Aylmerton. Robert is a Shoemaker.

It looks like Mar is crossed out on the census entry for Elizabeth and Wid or something similar written instead. I think her entry was originally meant to be Pauper Wd (of) Ag Laborer but the Ag Lab was crossed out and replaced by what looks like it could be a badly written Shoemaker, as suggested earlier.

PB

Edited to add: there is a death recorded for a Robert Shepherd in 1845 in the area they were living.



Title: Re: Can't decipher the word after scholar?
Post by: NorfolkTrees on Friday 05 July 19 17:25 BST (UK)
Thanks all!

I can see that it is a dreadfully written "shoemaker" but that it must relate to the entry below.

Perhaps I'll register a complaint to make sure this census taker uses block capitals in future! ;D