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General => Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing => Topic started by: LizzieL on Monday 01 July 19 14:19 BST (UK)
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I have a set of potential 4 x great grandparents suggested by thrulines. But, they are completely wrong. I can't see how Ancestry has come up with them. When I click evaluate, none of the trees it lists has actually got my known 3 x great grandmother as the daughter of this potential ancestor couple, and it states "None of the trees linked to your DNA matches identify David Christopher as the father of Elizabeth Christopher." So no DNA evidence to support the prediction.
David Christopher does have a daughter called Elizabeth, but she is nine years younger than mine, born in same county but not same town. She died unmarried in 1812 at the age of 22, whereas my ancestor married in 1807, produced 8 children and died in 1856
Does anyone know how I can remove these incorrect people from my Thrulines list?
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Does this help? (From the introduction tutorial)
ThruLines has found potential ancestors that are not related to me. Can I choose not to see these people?
If a potential ancestor does not support what you know about your family's history, you may contact the family tree owner associated with that person to correct any errors or make changes. You may also want to review relevant records and family trees to determine if there actually is a relationship.
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The trouble is none of the family trees that has David Christopher are incorrect. He does have a daughter Elizabeth, none of them have tried to marry her off to my 3 x great grandfather, they just leave her as a single woman. It seems that Ancestry's algorithms have ignored the fact that year of birth and place of birth are completely wrong when compared with my Elizabeth.
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I am new to these Thrulines, only got them yesterday,I may not have the full grasp of them yet.
Do you get this Thrulines match telling you, you have a shared ancestor hint or is it just an ordinary Thrulines match i.e the more speculative type?
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When I go to explore thrulines, I get a list of all my direct ancestors, starting with parents, then grandparents etc. All the ones from my tree are coloured pink or blue depending on gender. Where I haven't got an ancestor, it adds them in green labelled "potential ancestor". A few I know are correct, just haven't updated my Ancestry tree, but they're in my off line version.
But David Christopher and wife don't fit with my tree, and none of the trees with David Christopher in has my ancestor on them
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When thrulines first appeared my feedback, through a third person intermediary collecting info on Ancestry's behalf, was how did I get rid of an incorrect potential ancestor.
The response was - it hadn't been thought of and was not possible to do although they would make a note of it so maybe still not possible or they haven't bothered.
Pheno
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I got mine green ones to disappear...trying to remember how.. I have a feeling I also found them as a hint and ignored them
I was clicking about so much trying to figure how to make them go away I'm not sure now how I did it, sorry.
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I've also got them as hints and dismissed them, but they're still there in Thrulines
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My tree has a clearly identified great grandfather A of my husband, plus his wife B and ancestors of both of them for a few generations.
Thrulines insist that his great grandparents could have been X and Z, plus all of their respective ancestors.
It also suggests potential ancestors when I have ruled them out for whatever reason.
I don't use Thrulines very much, I prefer to look at Common Ancestor filter, still some mistakes, but not as many - most seem plausible if not proven to my satisfaction.
Unless Sinann remembers how she got rid of her wrong suggestions, the best thing to do is just to ignore them.
As for the quote from Ancestry 'If a potential ancestor does not support what you know about your family's history, you may contact the family tree owner associated with that person to correct any errors or make changes'.
The tree they have suggested is not necessarily wrong in the first place, when Ancestry plucks it out of nowhere as a match. A and B above are not in any way connected to X and Y, but the tree with X and Y itself isn't incorrect, just the association.
Regards Margaret
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I have just found something interesting in Thrulines.
One distant match sharing 11 cMs I have been in touch with before.
We share 5G grandparents from Buckinghamshire and potentially 5G grandparents from Oxfordshire.
When I first saw the match I thought it was with the latter, a potential brick wall broken down, but on further investigation I found the known connectIon.
Thrulines has given the second relationship first, but says 'View more possible connectIons', which shows the other relationship.
I just wish I could prove the Oxfordshire relationship to my satisfaction, a major brick wall with my 4G grandmother. That line ends there, as she had 3 children before marriage, no indication of the father's name.
Regards Margaret
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Does this help? (From the introduction tutorial)
ThruLines has found potential ancestors that are not related to me. Can I choose not to see these people?
If a potential ancestor does not support what you know about your family's history, you may contact the family tree owner associated with that person to correct any errors or make changes. You may also want to review relevant records and family trees to determine if there actually is a relationship.
It's making us do the work by having to contact the tree owner, point out the error of their ways and then hope they see the light and remove the person. And if they do - will it remove the potential ancestor? It would be much easier to have a discard/hide option - do I really care that their tree is wrong.
The only sure way to combat it is to find the appropriate person yourself I suppose.
Wonder if creating spurious persons in our trees for our unknown ancestors would sort the problem.
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I've added a few ancestors that I wouldn't normally have put on my tree as I don't have enough evidence, I've added the "hypothesis" tag so others can tell that, I found that after a few days they replaced the potential ancestors in Thrulines.I was particularly miffed about a potential great grandmother as my nana has two mothers on my tree, her biological and adoptive but eventually Thrulines caught up.
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I've added a few ancestors that I wouldn't normally have put on my tree as I don't have enough evidence, I've added the "hypothesis" tag so others can tell that, I found that after a few days they replaced the potential ancestors in Thrulines.I was particularly miffed about a potential great grandmother as my nana has two mothers on my tree, her biological and adoptive but eventually Thrulines caught up.
BIB - that is interesting. I have a great grandmother on my tree with both her natural and adoptive parents. I will have to look to see if Thrulines have suggested any connections to the adoptive parents (they have confirmed the natural parents beyond doubt with bone fide matches)
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My problem with thrulines is they disappear. On some days I have them and other days not enough information in my tree to have thrulines. I just assume someone somewhere is "updating the system".
I just ignore the "green potential ancestors" and focus on "known verifiable" ancestors.
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