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Title: Marriage Mortimer and Griffith(s)
Post by: Kenneal67 on Friday 21 June 19 15:12 BST (UK)
Hi All,

I have trawled all of the usual places FindMyPast Ancestry FamilySearch and cant find any details on a marriage between john Mortimer and Mary Ann Griffith(s) more than likely in London prior to 1825.

Any help appreciated
Title: Re: Marriage Mortimer and Griffith(s)
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 21 June 19 15:17 BST (UK)
Maybe she had been married before? A widow?
So the name she married under may not be her maiden name ;D

I had just that this week, researching a friend's family tree. ;)
Title: Re: Marriage Mortimer and Griffith(s)
Post by: avm228 on Friday 21 June 19 15:29 BST (UK)
What details do you have of them in their married life?
Title: Re: Marriage Mortimer and Griffith(s)
Post by: Kenneal67 on Friday 21 June 19 15:35 BST (UK)
What details do you have of them in their married life?

They had a son Cornelius circa 1823 born London and a daughter Jane circa 1827
Title: Re: Marriage Mortimer and Griffith(s)
Post by: avm228 on Friday 21 June 19 15:39 BST (UK)
Where in London was Cornelius born please?  I can see a Cornelius Mortimer baptised 2 October 1823 St Marylebone, but he was a son of Charles & Sophia.

Also - what's the source of the Griffiths maiden name?
Title: Re: Marriage Mortimer and Griffith(s)
Post by: osprey on Friday 21 June 19 17:06 BST (UK)
there was a marriage 23 Dec 1823 in St George Hanover Square of John Mortimer & Mary Ann Price, spinster, witnesses Thomas Hatton & Mary Milton, all signed.
Title: Re: Marriage Mortimer and Griffith(s)
Post by: Kenneal67 on Friday 21 June 19 17:22 BST (UK)
Cornelius went to Oz  and got married in Australia more than once. One wedding on the certificate he stated his father was John  Mortimer and his mother was Mary Ann Griffiths and he was born in London England . This is the total sum of info and no trail for Cornelius in the UK can be found.
Title: Re: Marriage Mortimer and Griffith(s)
Post by: avm228 on Friday 21 June 19 17:37 BST (UK)
How odd.

As I mentioned, there was a Cornelius Mortimer born at the right time in London, but to Charles and Sophia.  He seems likely to have died in Kensington Mar qtr 1862 (his wife Harriet appearing as a widow in Paddington by 1871) but with his age recorded as 49 rather than 39.

When does your Cornelius first appear in Australia?  Might he have assumed the identity of the deceased man in London, do you think?
Title: Re: Marriage Mortimer and Griffith(s)
Post by: osprey on Friday 21 June 19 19:22 BST (UK)
is he the Corn Mortimer on this 1857 ship from Melbourne to Sydney? Noted as single, but there is a Mrs on the following line?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSMP-8966-M?i=330&cc=2527519
Title: Re: Marriage Mortimer and Griffith(s)
Post by: jomcd967 on Saturday 22 June 19 14:03 BST (UK)
Hi Kenneal67,

To help us look for details pertaining to Cornelius......

Historic Australian BMD records generally show a great deal of information, could you please list all information that you have from his marriage & death records.... his place of birth, year of birth (calculated from his age given at each occasion), occupation, fathers occupation, how long in country, marriage witnesses.

Could you also please explain how you know he has a sister Jane?

Cheers, Jo  :)
Title: Re: Marriage Mortimer and Griffith(s)
Post by: Raelene Mortimer on Tuesday 09 July 19 23:54 BST (UK)
Cornelius Mortimer arrived in Australia in 1847. He married Bridget Bergin 1850 in Portland NSW.
They had David born 1850. Cornelius 1857 Rose 1859 and Edward. All born Victoria.
He is my 3 x great grandfather. If you could contact me I'd love to hear from you.
I too have been trying to find information on John and Mary Ann Griffiths.