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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: jinnyf on Saturday 15 June 19 08:59 BST (UK)
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I have been researching the family history and have got to the stage where I need to obtain some certificates to confirm that I'm on the right track.
I live in South Australia and am hoping that some else who doesn't live in England can recommend the best way of doing things, eg, of paying the correct amount.
Thanks
Jinny
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the cheapest way is from the GRO itself, you can opt for pdfs for some births & deaths depending on period
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
Don't buy from family history sites as they add a HUGE mark up!
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Thanks for your prompt response. I've been reading a few of the threads, and I definitely got that message!
I was more looking for advice on how to go about it. Particularly, with the exchange rates fluctuating daily, how do you make sure that you send the right amount of money?
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the GRO takes card payments so no sending of actual money.
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That's one worry less! Thanks
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Hi Jinny :)
I'm also in South Australia, but my ancestors were all English so I've had a lot of dealings with GRO. Ordering is easy, especially if you know their reference for the certificate you want (if you don't, they'll find it but then they charge more).
Start with the link Osprey gave, open an account, and look at their historical index for births and deaths. If the event you want is too recent to be listed there, or if you're looking for a marriage, try this other site which is completely free: https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
FreeBMD is fairly complete up to 1983 but they don't sell certs, they just provide GRO index details.
When ordering from GRO, take the PDF option (if offered) unless you want a document to hang on the wall. PDFs are far cheaper and contain the same information without the 'official' format. They come by email in a few days, whereas paper certs take around 3 weeks by air mail.
Just ask if you'd like any more help, or you can PM me if you'd prefer :)
Carol
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If you do decide to go for a certified paper certificate which is posted to you, just to let you know that postage is included in the cost of the certificate no matter where in the world you are.
I think it is a guessing game when to buy to get the best rate of exchange. If you want to take a gamble and want to save a dollar or two you could wait in case the tide turns in your favour. But it might not. As you are only ever talking about a few dollars is probably isn’t worth worrying about unless you are really pushed for cash. There is all sorts going on politically in the UK at the moment but I don’t know how that might affect the exchange rate. I’m sure someone will though.
I just had a look at it looks about average at the moment.
I agree that you should purchase through the official channel - the GRO. It’s very easy to do so.
Some people purchase certificates through the local register offices. There is a different set of registration numbers associated with those but you do see your ancestor’s original signatures, if they signed. I think you need to apply over the phone or by letter and it is no cheaper, and not as simple but worthy of consideration if the signatures are important as a way of cross checking, or just for interest.
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Hi jinnyf,
I too have ordered a large number from the GRO and have had no problems at all. It is very easy and you can pay by credit card which makes things easy. The exchange rate fluctuations does not have a huge impact on the cost. I think there is a small cost on the credit card for an overseas transaction.
Regards Kaybron
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My Australian bank adds on 3% for 'foreign' transactions, it's only a few cents. The pound is hovering around AU$1.80 at the moment.
Jinny, the mention of signatures reminds me - if your people were married in church, especially Church of England, their signatures can often be found on the parish register copy of their marriage certificate. Many counties have had their church records digitised and they're viewable on Ancestry or FindMyPast.
Did you know that many libraries subscribe to Ancestry's Library Edition? Ask your local library if they have it. It has all of Ancestry's English records, free of charge, and when you find something good you can email it to yourself! I did that before I bought my subscription.
Carol
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Thanks all, I'm being to feel more confident
Jinny
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I am in New Zealand and in May i ordered Marriage Certificate through GRO. Using reference numbers from FreeBMD I entered these into GRO order form. Paid using my Debit card. No problems. My certificate arrived about 3 weeks later. Did have to pay 60 cents for Currency Exchange no other charges.
Happy with end result.
Carol
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Hi, hope you don't mind me tagging on to this thread, but as you people have bought certificates from UK I thought you might be able to help me. What information would I get about the parents on a 1844 birth certificate? Would it just be names and Maiden name? Thank you for your time.
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For England and Wales births
Register number
When and where born
Name if any (some are unnamed at registration)
Sex
Name and surname of father
Name surname and maiden surname of mother
Occupation of father
Signature, description and residence of informant
When registered
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Thank you for your help.
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Just to add to Davidft’s reply, this link sets out the info provided on death and marriage certificates for Wales and England as well (assuming that once you have ordered a birth cert you may want others - they are addictive).
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp#CertificateInformation
Scroll down or select the question “What information will I see on birth, marriage and death certificates?”
Note the information provided about the option to get some births and deaths (up to certain dates) in the form of a PDF emailed to you - this is a little cheaper.
The site for Scotland is https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ - civil registration started in 1855 in Scotland
This link explains the situation for Ireland-
https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Irish-civil-registration.html
Ireland- https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ - the official government site
Northern Ireland - https://www.gov.uk/general-register-office-for-northern-ireland
Hope this is useful.
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Wow, thank you. So helpful having info for all the UK sites in one message. Cheers