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Title: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: carmatt on Tuesday 11 June 19 09:49 BST (UK)
Sorry, I am very new to this. I am looking into a family sory for someone who died in 1864.

I discovered very quickly that Robert Back or Bach was a mate on the Belle of Devon and other ships including Wild Horses from Nova Scotia.

Robert was born in 1832, London and died in Glasgow 1864.

Would there be any Merchant Navy records for him?
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: davecapps on Tuesday 11 June 19 09:57 BST (UK)
you could try your luck by FindMyPast
YouŽll need to subscribe

https://www.findmypast.com/articles/world-records/full-list-of-united-kingdom-records/education-and-work-records/merchant-navy-seamen-merchant-marines


Dave
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: carmatt on Tuesday 11 June 19 10:05 BST (UK)
Thank you. OK - I don't have a sub on that.

Don't have a sub on anything!!
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: carmatt on Tuesday 11 June 19 10:21 BST (UK)
Don't have a sub on anything just started FH yesterday.
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 11 June 19 10:34 BST (UK)
Hi Carmatt and welcome to Rootschat...Here is a snip of an image from Findmypast.

Carol
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: davecapps on Tuesday 11 June 19 10:35 BST (UK)
to get the information you want, you sometimes have to subscribe. ItŽs not all that expensive.
I have an Ancestry subscription, without which i wouldŽnt be where i am now.

But it all boils down to how important this is for you
Dave
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 11 June 19 10:39 BST (UK)
Here is the information from the 1861 census:

Robert   Bach   Head   Married   Male   28   1833   Seaman (Merchant Service)   England
Eliza   Bach   Wife   Married   Female   25   1836   -   Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Robert E   Bach   Son   -   Male   3   1858   -   Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Margaret   Cameron   Aunt   Widow   Female   45   1816   -   Perth, Perthshire, Scotland
George   Cameron   Cousin   -   Male   12   1849   Scholar   Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Carol
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: carmatt on Tuesday 11 June 19 10:43 BST (UK)
Thank you.

Was there anything under Back?
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 11 June 19 10:55 BST (UK)
Those are the only two records I could find on FindMyPast that match the info that you have supplied. There may still be other records elsewhere though. There is also this free site but you need to sign up.

www.familysearch.org/en/

Carol
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 11 June 19 11:55 BST (UK)
From Ancestry...This is record for him getting his mate's ticket here could be him:

Robert Bach
Estimated Age:   22
Birth Date:   1832
Birth Place:   London, Midd??
[London, Middlesex]
Issue Date:   9 Jun 1854
Issue Port:   Leith
Certificate Number:   10.499

There is an image of the certificate for him.

Carol
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 11 June 19 12:01 BST (UK)
There is also a record for Robert Bach on a Family Tree on Ancestry stating that "he was drowned at sea after falling overboard from the vessel "Wild Horse" on 20/10/64"

Carol
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: Annette7 on Tuesday 11 June 19 22:10 BST (UK)
Robert Back, seaman, son of Edward Back, Commercial Traveller and Charlotte Mayland married Eliza Home, dau. of George Home and Ann Cameron, on 4/5/1857 at Leith, Midlothian.

The surname seems to switch between Bach and Back.

Can't find Robert's baptism BUT have found parents marriage - again slight variation in names.

Edmund Bach married Charlotte Myland 12/5/1827 St. Marylebone.

Found just one baptism:

Edmund Bach bp.2/3/1828 St. Sepulchre, London, son of Edmund and Charlotte.   Edmund's occupation 'Writer'.

What with Edmund/Edward and Bach/Back it's difficult trying to pursue this.

I did find an Edmund Bach aged 36 living in St. Anne, Soho, London who's described as 'Asst. Librarian B. Newson (?) - not sure what the word is after 'B' but that's what it looks like - and birthplace shown as 'Foreign Parts'. No other family with him.

Best I can do.

Annette



 
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: Jublinterre on Thursday 13 June 19 20:57 BST (UK)
Is there a Robert Back in the records for 1861 to 1913?
Title: Re: Merchant seaman - mates
Post by: Daisypetal on Tuesday 18 June 19 17:35 BST (UK)
Hi,

I think the 1841 occupation for the Edmund in St Anne Soho could be "Asst Librarian B Musem", I wonder if that's the British Musem?

Regards,
Daisy