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Hi 👀 nj for any info regarding my great great grandparents. Benjamin John Simpson married Hannah (Smith) Simpson . They had 14 children some of which migrated to east orange New Jersey around early 1880s. I think they lived around Celbridge, Ireland. Looking for their birth or death certificates
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You need to give us an idea of when they married and the children's names, religion would help as well.
I can see a Benjamin Simpson and Anne Smith having children in Celbridge registration district
Theophilus in 1864 and Louis in 1866 could that be them?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Could this be Benjamin and Hannah
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Celbridge/Big_Lane/1436453/
This Benjamin died 19 April 1901
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05728/4616568.pdf
And Hannah in 1904
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05628/4583382.pdf
Possibly eldest daughter Elizabeth married George Henderson in 1867, (cert is very faint but I found marriage in a newspaper)was widowed and married Peter Tyrell in 1870
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11393/8183271.pdf
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nwo/
Aged 26 which would put her birth about 1843 1844 if this is the correct family the parents marriage is before civil registration so you would need a church record.
Elizabeth died 1879
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Hi,
Here is what I know currently regarding my Simpson ancestors some of the info that you posted after my post sounds like it might be info for my relatives so thank you very much for that info:)
Not sure if the info below will help further identify any of my ancestors, but here is what I know.
Benjamin John Simpson possibly born around 1820 in Celbridge Ireland
Hannah Simpson his wife maiden name Smith possibly born around 1820 somewhere in Kildare her mother was Jane Smith ( maiden name Harkiness),
I believe based on a census in 1901 Benjamin and Hannah Simpson resided in Big lane, Celbridge, Kildare, Ireland and belonged to the Church of Ireland. Benjamin may have been a farmer.
Benjamin and Hannah had 14 children beginning with:
Elizabeth Anne born May 28, 1843, died Sept 6, 1879
Benjamin John born October 14, 1844
Emma Frances born June 15,1846
William Henry born Dec 27,1848, died Dec 26, 1914
Robert Frederick born May 3,1850
Arthur Richard born Feb 15, 1852
Alfred Thomas born Dec 3,1853, died Dec 6, 1859
George Christopher born Nov 10, 1855, died Mar 17, 1900
Harold Frank born May 9, 1859, died Sept, 27, 1900
Ernest shires born Dec 26, 1859 ( my great grandfather) died Oct 22,1935(East Orange, NJ, USA)
Perceval Charles born Jan 10, 1861, died Oct 6, 1869
Cecil Edward born Jan 23, 1863
Theophilus Hare born Oct 4,1864
Louis Alfred born April 8,1866
Thanks
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If you go to https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp and enter this Search you should find Ben's death.
You can alter search as needed or even just use Surname, you can tick Marriages or what ever and Search
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http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/index.jsp gets you a result for a Benjamin Will
this Search gets a few results on http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/index.jsp
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Just to keep all the information together I'm posting your post from the What country thread.
Trying to locate my great great grandparents and their ancestors. I have a family bible but am confused in that the name at the top of the family page isn’t that of my great great grandmother. I know from death certificates that my great great grand mother was Hannah simpson(maiden name Smith) who was married to Benjamin John Simpson. 14 children are listed but the name at the top is Harriet Mcallister. The Bible was made in Edinburgh Scotland but my ancestors came from possibly Kildare Ireland, my great great grandparents may halve been born around 1820 possibly around celbridge Ireland for my great great grandfather Benjamin John Simpson and my great great grandmother may have been born around Kildare Ireland’s. Trying to figure out where Harriet mcallister fits in?
As you can see from the 1901 Census Benjamin was born in England which might be connected to Harriet and the made in Scotland bible.
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Harry T Simpson died 1917 in Massachussetts i suspect this may be Theophelius
whoever gave the death information seemed to know his father was English and mother Irish
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GR62-SHV?i=280&cc=1928860
When Hannah died 1904 the informant was a daughter Rebecca
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05628/4583382.pdf
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If you use the Search I recommend you can see if any of the children Married or Died in Celbridge or not...
Emma's Marriage is there!
That way you get a better picture of them rather than me just posting something!
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For any not found in Celbridge all you can do is put name in, no District, and tick Marriages and Deaths .....or maybe look for them on Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/#searchmore
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Changing age to 50 gets one these...
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Harry T Simpson died 1917 in Massachussetts i suspect this may be Theophelius
whoever gave the death information seemed to know his father was English and mother Irish
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GR62-SHV?i=280&cc=1928860
When Hannah died 1904 the informant was a daughter Rebecca
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05628/4583382.pdf
I'd say Rebecca is her daughter in law as per the 1901 census.
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Rebecca who was informant on Hannah's death may have been her daughter in law Rebecca Stephenson
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q292-1TSY
they had a son Louis Jnr born 1904 in Celbridge
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01806/1707713.pdf
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Some of the children appeared to have married RC which wouldn't be unusual in Ireland.
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Earlier records show the family in Clonshambo/Clonshanbo spelling varies which is why Emma's marriage is showing the RC parish of Kilcock https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0708
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If any of the girls Married and had kids after 1900 in Celbridge this Search should find them
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/advanced-civil.jsp
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Trying to locate my great great grandparents and their ancestors. I have a family bible but am confused in that the name at the top of the family page isn’t that of my great great grandmother. I know from death certificates that my great great grand mother was Hannah simpson(maiden name Smith) who was married to Benjamin John Simpson. 14 children are listed but the name at the top is Harriet Mcallister. The Bible was made in Edinburgh Scotland but my ancestors came from possibly Kildare Ireland, my great great grandparents may halve been born around 1820 possibly around celbridge Ireland for my great great grandfather Benjamin John Simpson and my great great grandmother may have been born around Kildare Ireland’s. Trying to figure out where Harriet mcallister fits in?
It wasn't uncommon to purchase a previously owned Bible and then start using it to record your own family events. W have on in OH's family which seems to have belong to grandfather who possibly purchased it at an auction with other items (although never added any details of his family).
Go back and study the entries in the Bible you have. Are they all in the same hand? Are all the birth (and all deaths, all marriages) in chronological order?
When was the Bible printed? it the printing date before or after the earliest written record?
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Just trying to put together what has been found so far, you can look up these finds on Irish Genealogy and FamilySearch both free to use.
From your post
Benjamin John Simpson possibly born around 1820 in Celbridge Ireland Born England, died 1901
Hannah Simpson his wife maiden name Smith possibly born around 1820 somewhere in Kildare her mother was Jane Smith ( maiden name Harkiness), Likely known as Hannah but born Anne Died 1904
I believe based on a census in 1901 Benjamin and Hannah Simpson resided in Big lane, Celbridge, Kildare, Ireland and belonged to the Church of Ireland. Benjamin may have been a farmer.
Benjamin and Hannah had 14 children beginning with:
Elizabeth Anne born May 28, 1843, died Sept 6, 1879 Married George Henderson 1867, married Peter Tyrrell 1870 died 1879
Benjamin John born October 14, 1844
Emma Frances born June 15,1846 married Peter Conner 1870
William Henry born Dec 27,1848, died Dec 26, 1914
Robert Frederick born May 3,1850
Arthur Richard born Feb 15, 1852
Alfred Thomas born Dec 3,1853, died Dec 6, 1859
George Christopher born Nov 10, 1855, died Mar 17, 1900
Harold Frank born May 9, 1859, died Sept, 27, 1900
Ernest shires born Dec 26, 1859 ( my great grandfather) died Oct 22,1935(East Orange, NJ, USA)
Perceval Charles born Jan 10, 1861, died Oct 6, 1869
Cecil Edward born Jan 23, 1863
Theophilus Hare born Oct 4,1864 likely died 1917 Massachuetts
Louis Alfred born April 8,1866 Married Rebecca Stephenson 1888 USA returned to Ireland
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Some/All others not on Census (I think!)
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Thank you all for this very helpful information:) It has helped put some of the pieces together for me.
Adele
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Louis and Rebecca were both in Ireland 1911
Louis and children in Kildare
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Celbridge/Union_Lane/539246/
While Rebecca was in Longford visiting family of possible brother Benjamin deceased who married Anne Thompson in 1876
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1876/11159/8088091.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Longford/Longford_No__1_Urban/Dublin_Street/651223/
in 1915 Louis made his passport application to return to Ireland to look after his property and get his wife and children,he was a gardiner and lived in East Orange.
right hand page
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9X7-8ZG6?i=726&cc=2185145
photo left hand page
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9X7-88PC?i=727&cc=2185145
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I wonder if this is Arthur Richard
Son Edward's death 1914, Queens New York
gives Arthur's wife as Mary Dolan
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WQQ-Y7P
1900 Census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DH6W-Y3H?i=14&cc=1325221
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Thanks very helpful info really appreciate you sharing this info of my ancestors